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Fleet Aug 21, 2018 2:19:53 GMT

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Post by gameboy on Aug 21, 2018 2:19:53 GMT

Aug 20, 2018 6:51:39 GMT @fjh said:

Aug 20, 2018 6:39:32 GMT gameboy said:

How many native peoples did the Aztecs wipe out? As I said, human history is one of conquest.

But no, the Catholic Church did not put pagans on altars and rip out their hearts. Sorry, your Aztecs were barbaric savages who were going nowhere without Christian ethics and later, Western technology and medicine,

No, they didn't put pagans on altars and rip their hearts out... The Christians of medieval Europe were more in to torturing people who they thought had offended their make believe god. Then they burned them alive, drowned, or beheaded them. Then they took their brand of religious human sacrifice to the 'new' world, and inflicted it upon the indigenous peoples, whose land they stole by force, all in the name of their christian god.

The indigenous peoples of the Americas weren't thankful for western 'medicine'. White Europeans caused genocide in the 'new' world simply with all the diseases they brought with them.

Their technology and medicine was far in advance of the European invaders in many respects.

The christian ethics they brought caused nothing but theft, rape, and death, on an industrial scale.

It's as if you want us both to get in separate corners and go to bat for our favorite savages. I've never said the Catholic Church was all noble and good. They burned homosexuals at the stake as witches for crying out loud.

I'm saying tribes conquer other tribes. The Aztecs conquered and enslaved other indigenous peoples and the Spanish in turn conquered them.

And no, the Aztecs did not discover modern medicine. They used spells and herbs to heal. The bottom line is that the people of Mexico are better off now with European technology and medicine than they would be if the Aztecs were still down there performing human sacrifice.