Ohio State starts season as underdog against Cincinnati

program has fallen off.

when's the last time they were relevant?  Evan Turner?

I wanted DeMarcus Cousins and Derrick Favors in the 'Turner Draft' - drafted #2 by the Sixers.

had hopes he'd turn into a quasi Scottie Pippen/Vernon Maxwell/Nick Van Exel.

haters will hate.   Turner does a multitude of things 'good' but nothing spectacular - which is where i'm hoping Markelle Fultz fits now