The Avengers bloody rampages

The Avengers bloody rampages Nov 16, 2018 16:25:58 GMT kuatorises likes this

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Post by bud47 on Nov 16, 2018 16:25:58 GMT

Nov 16, 2018 15:38:02 GMT DC-Fan said:

Nov 15, 2018 21:48:17 GMT bud47 said:

Not the same situation. Taking the time to negotiate with bank robbers over a small number of hostages is not the same as letting someone possibly get away with a WMD capable of killing thousands. They had to weigh the risks and possible outcomes. What's more ridiculous is why they were so chastised over these things

You don't let them get away. You track them and wait until you can move in with little or no risk to civilian lives.

That's what the FBI did when they went after John Dillinger. Dillinger was #1 on the FBI's Most Wanted List. The FBI knew DIillinger was inside that theater. Sure, they could've stormed into the theater with dozens of armed FBI agents, but if Dillinger had a weapon and they got into a shootout, civilians would've most likely been killed.

But they didn't let Dillinger get away either. They waited outside the theater for Dillinger to come out and for the crowd to disperse and then they moved in on Dillinger. They got Dillinger without any civilian casualties. That's how to apprehend a dangerous criminal while minimizing civilian casualties, not the way that Cap's team recklessly disregarded civilian lives.

And yes, they should be chastised. When cops act recklessly and get civilians killed, somebody gets reprimanded or suspended or demoted or fired (or at worst, even prosecuted). Cops are supposed be trusted by the people to protect and serve so cops have a responsibility to protect civilian lives and when cops act recklessly and endanger civilian lives, they have to be held accountable. The Avengers want to be "heroes" but they don't want the responsibility of protecting civilian lives and they want to be able to act recklessly without regard for civilian lives and not be held accountable.

That's why Cap didn't want to sign the Accords. Because Cap wanted to be a tyrant with no oversight or limitation on his power and authority.

That's kinda the point of the film, if you didn't notice. The Accords are to hold the Avengers responsible for their mistakes and to dictate/control when their involvement is needed. Cap's unwillingness to sign is because it takes away their right to choose and limits their ability to help when it's desperately needed. Not so that he can be a "tyrant". Maybe he's wrong and his actions sometimes make things worse, but this is what makes him and all of these characters interesting.