Homecoming's Two Major Advantages Over Previous Spidey Films

Homecoming's Two Major Advantages Over Previous Spidey Films Dec 5, 2018 3:13:52 GMT

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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 5, 2018 3:13:52 GMT

Dec 3, 2018 19:01:25 GMT HorrorMetal said:

Dec 3, 2018 18:30:01 GMT ThatGuy said:

Didn't you walk out of the movie before the 3rd act? He didn't have the AI after the ferry scene. The AI was a device so they can apply him talking to "himself" like in the comics. That was the purpose of it. In the end of the movie, without the AI, he was dodging things that he was not looking at (Vulture's wings). You could not be a superhero because you'd still need Peter's other powers. You forget, the spider-sense is not his main power.

I'd say the only way I'd use J. Jonah is like he is in the PS4 game.

But Peter wasn't trying to team-up with Stark. He was trying to join the Avengers. Stark just happen to be the leader of the Avengers now that half of the team is gone. He's auditioning to be on the team. Also, Stark is more of a sub for Reed Richards. And now that I think about it, He never teamed up with Stark. Stark just kept coming to save his butt because he was screwing up. Then at the end he turns down joining the Avengers because he realizes that's not something he wants.

Even if she turns out to be Mary Jane, she was still playing the role of a girl with a crappy family life trying to hide it. She just didn't play the bubbly party girl as a mask. And there were quite a few times when that mask slipped off her.

Scrawny nerds aren't bullies? Have you never seen anything with spoiled, arrogant, rich kids that take the piss out of others they see as below them? Especially a kid that is kinda poor.

How is that her problem you aren't attracted to Sally Field and/or Rosemary Harris?

I didn't walk out. You have me confused with someone else. I didn't say the spider sense was his main power, I just meant that anyone could be a superhero if they had that Stark tech suit. His other powers were basically secondary to the ones his costume equipped him with.

Yes, you could say that the whole wanting to join the Avengers thing was a substitution for him wanting to join the Fantastic Four in the comics. But the concept isn't quite the same. In the one issue that he wanted to be part of the FF, it was only because he needed money, and thought that was a way to get it. There was no hero worship going on, no "dream" or "yearning" to be a part of their team. In fact, he was very condescending and rude about the whole thing, acting like he was doing them a favor by gracing them with his presence. And when they told him they were a non-profit organization, he lost all interest in the idea. That's nothing like how Parker is portrayed in the 2017 movie. Again, it was more like "Chester and Spike".

My point still stands that "MJ" going from a outgoing party girl to a cynical and aloof outcast isn't true to the character. What's happening with her at home doesn't really matter.

Bullies will always be the larger/stronger guys. Sadly, physical stature pretty much trumps anything in any school. Flash in this movie was about as intimidating as a gerbil, there is no way anyone would ever fear him. Having a strong wit and being able to outsmart someone does exactly nothing to prevent a fist to the face.

Was Aunt May attractive in the comics? What's attractive to someone is objective, sure, but regardless she didn't look/act/talk anything like the traditional Aunt May.

What did his suit do that made it so anyone can be superhero? He still had to use his own agility, he still had to use his own strength, he still had to use his own quick reflexes. The suit just made it so he can use his webshooters in a different way and had an AI talking to him. What else did he have?

What hero worship was there? Is it because a 15 year old was calling a 50+ year old man Mr.? What part of any of these movies showed hero worship? Stark is the leader of the Avengers and his mentor. He defers to him. He's not going to talk to Cap about joining the Avengers. And like I said before, in the end, he realized that joining the Avengers is not high on what he wants. And still not seeing the Chester and Spike comparison.

Isn't true to which MJ, though? Homecoming is clearly based mostly on Ultimate Spider-man.

You have an outdated look on what a bully is. Does a cyber bully have to be some larger stronger guy? This Flash is more of a d-head. You have a group of nerds and one of them is an overwhelming jerk. Still a bully. He doesn't have to beat Peter around to be a bully to him.

Traditional? Again Ultimate Aunt May. She looked younger than the foot in the grave Aunt May from the older comics and more attractive than she is "traditionally" made to look. Even the animated Ultimate Aunt May. Aunt May was made into this old biddy so Peter can have another person to worry about dying at any moment.