Why Infinty War Time Travel fails

No oscar is nominated or won on merit alone. If that were the case then they would just send out the screeners and that's it. There would be no private viewing parties with the filmmakers and stars, campaigning, ads and articles pushed in Variety. If you can show me where there was absolutely no campaigning for those 2 movies. I will agree that they got them strictly on Merit. This is not just one or two articles that suggest they only had the screeners sent out. You would have to prove Studio Execs at Fox and WB didn't have talks with Agents pushing for their Academy Clients to nominate or vote for Studios IP, parties, gifts, ads, etc. That's the point I'm making. Some movies deserve recognition more, but in the Business of Hollywood merit isn't the only factor. It's an interconnected web. And yes Logan and TDK had to play the game too. 




I agree if we had to compare Ledger's to all of BP he would deserve it over BP. I never said it  did over him. I just said that his nomination and win wasn't 100% merit. NO movies nomination or win is based strictly on merit.

It's just my personal opinion, which has nothing to do with the other opinion that more than merit is considered, that no superhero/comicbook movie has deserved a main Oscar. Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. I don't think he deserved a Nomination. I also don't think  that most of the academy thought he didn't and only voted on it because he died. 

I'm saying that I didn't think it deserved. I'm pretty sure a lot of academy members thought he did, but his death being framed/given scope highlighted the performance. Making even more people think he deserved it. I just don't agree. He was close but no cigar.

I never meant to imply that that was the sole factor and the Academy was giving him a pity fuck because he died. I was just saying that that was just one factor out of many.





That's not an opinion I would argue. It matches mine. I just don't go touting that my Opinion is the truth. I feel TDK hands down is superior to Black Panther. I think Logan is closer in quality to Black Panther , but still beats it by large margin. I have some problems with Logan, but I can appreciate the movie's Quality. I can appreciate the quality of God Father 1 and 2, but I would never call them any of my favorites. Rewatch-ability is hands down to Logan. 







What is your definition of Acclaimed and that of Prestigious? I gave you Websters . By the definition of the 2 words yes GotG and Iron-man is more prestigious and acclaimed. Without changing the dictionary definition of the word tell me how Winter Solider is more Acclaimed and Prestigious than GoTG and Iron-Man. Was Winter Soldier higher rated by audiences? Was Winter Soldier  given more Acclaim and Respect by Critics? Did Winter Soldier earn more nomination/wins for awards? 



So your definition of CONFIRMED is an article that is speculating with the limited data we have? They have a question mark in the title and the first sentence says "AVENGERS 4 Endgame’s trailer seems to tease time travel to reverse Thanos’ Snap in Avengers Infinity War."


Again the only people who can confirm that time travel is in the movie are: The Writers, Actors, Execs, and people who have seen the movie. And even if they confirm it doesn't mean it's true. The Russo's said that End Game wasn't the title. The actors shot multiple scripts/scenes, The Russo's also put misinformation in the IW trailer. Hulk fighting in Wakanda and Thanos fighting Captain America with only 2 stones. How can we trust anything about what the movie will be and what will be confirmed if you can't trust the Trailers or The Russos?



I love Back To the Future, but the fading/dying was never suspenseful for me. The only thing that was suspenseful was what changes he made to the time line.






Dude you have to be kidding. How is the ending to series of movies the ending to all the  movies? So if I've never seen Logan or Days of Future Past and was just fixing to watch them, but was nervous if I would like DoFP ending being sad. If I asked you go ahead and spoil the ending to DoFP for me and Just DoFP. If you agreed would you say "Logan dies at the end and his clone daughter recites Shane at his grave?" or would you say "Logan saves the day, changes the past which erases much of X3."

Words have meanings. The end of DoFP is the end of DoFP. The end of Logan is the end of Logan. And we don't know if New Mutants takes place in the main universe or if it's before or after the events of Logan. If it's not then the end of the Series is sad, but not the end of the previous movies because of the last one. 



Dude that tact won't work for me. Barring X3, Origins, and Apocalypse I love or like the other X-men Movies. I'm not some blind MCU Fan that thinks every MCU movie is better than any comicbook movie. 

Again learn Opinion vs Fact. Anybody I name as Complex and 3d as Mystique would just be my opinion. Just like it's your Opinion that Mystique is Complex and 3D. It would be Opinion vs Opinion. 

The layers of Mystique in the First Class generation of Xmen films. Abandon child who hates she's a mutant who comes to grips with her difference. Broken by losses she goes down a path of evil, but is saved by mercy. Consigned to fight for those who are different to the detriment to her soul finally comes to grip with what it means to be Mutant and Proud. A lesson that she thought she understood what it meant after her epiphany in FC. She finally understands the true nature of being proud of ones self viscerally. After taking that lesson truely to heart instead of fighting for people who are different she teaches others how to fight and be proud. Did I get that about right? The complexity and 3 dimension-ness isn't even because of Jennifer's performance. It would be the Writing. Writing creates character complexity and dimension. The actress has to just portray that naturally. You could have the worst actor in the world give a performance of the most complex character in the world and the character would still be complex. You could have the best actor in the world portray the least complex character ever written and unless he changes the dialogue, setting, action, etc he couldn't make the character more complex. 

Another reason we know about her complexity is we have seen an Arc of hers going from teenager to adult woman. This doesn't paint the MCU in a good light you are right. 

All that said even with her bad performance in DofP and Apocalypse her writing has given her a big arc and their isn't one to match in the MCU.  



LIke I said early I didn't read anything that puts her in the spotlight or anecdotally from people all over. I wouldn't say her inbetweenness is the cause of the complexity but the talent of the writers making her arc long and twisted.

BTW I think Jennifer Lawrence is a great actor. Like me and charzhino were talking about a bit ago I think the grueling nature of the makeup started the decent. In the beginning her being young and willing to put up with it helped her performance in FC. After she blew up she got more disenchanted with he movies and the character. I forgot when he said the downward spiral started, but I think we agreed it started in DoFP I don't want to put words in his mouth tho.








Yup, I'm not ashamed of liking IW. And I had more enjoyment and emotional response to it than DoFP. The pay off was better. I like how IW is really Thanos' story. I like how it ended on a series of down notes. 

James Cameron who loved avengers? and was quoted as such? 

In the end it's just your opinion that DOFP is Better. You can't prove a subjective stance as objective. You aren't the de facto judge of movies who opinions are facts.


Who called it the best since was it a critic? Do those count only when you agree with them? Was it just someone else in the business? I would like to talk to de facto Judge of Movies out there who's opinions are facts if it's not you. 

who called one of the worst movies of the year? Was it a critic that you agreed with? Do only those critics count? Seems you had a problem with me using the respect they gave to GotG and Iron-man when you didn't agree. Does Acclaim only count when critic agrees with you? 

Woah you have quotes from filmmakers  that hated IW. Can you post the lot here I'd like to see them. So are they the de facto judge that their opinions get spun into golden facts?

So audience don't count when they acclaim and praise movies you don't like, but when they agree with you they count? 

So we can all get it straight tell us the rules succinctly.

When do critics, filmmakers, audience scores count and when they don't.