Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 13:00:43 GMT
Jan 2, 2019 22:36:06 GMT @graham said:
Those are not the question I asked. I asked you if it would be within his power to create life in such a way that cancer could never exist in any form, no matter what.Would it, or would it not?
There's a concept in design called 'fail safe'. For instance in a nuclear reactor there are control rods which, when pushed into the reactor, stop it from working. When pulled out, they make the reactor run faster and faster. You could design a reactor so that those rods are pushed in from underneath - but if you did, then a power failure to the motors on the rods would leave them sitting below the reactor, making it run faster and faster. The reactor would have failed in a dangerous way. So designers put them above the reactor, using power to hold them up. That way a power failure means they naturally drop down into the reactor, closing it down. So a failure makes the reactor safer, not more dangerous.
If christians are to be believed, god made life, and in fact the world, in an incredibly 'fail dangerous' way. He designed it so that when the fall happened, it didn't just corrupt the people who sinned - it corrupted all of their descendants for thousands of years. And not only that, it corrupted the entire natural world. All the animals. Even the geology, climate, etc of the planet itself. They seriously argue that the reason my mother died of cancer last year is that six thousand years ago two people ate a piece of fruit that they were told not to.
This to me seems like poor design. So I'm asking - could god have designed the world so that it was 'fail safe'? Could he have arranged things so that the sin of Adam and Eve did not cause the corruption of their DNA code in such a way that cancer became a thing.
If god could do that... then why didn't he?
And if god couldn't do that... then why call him god?
If one accepts the premise that the fall corrupted the world, the one reasonable conclusion is that god wanted it to corrupt the world. Given his placement of the tree of knowledge, a suspicious mind might even think he wanted the fall to happen.