What is this "random" of which you speak?

    That's nice. However it has nothing to do with your arguments against me, here or anywhere else. I never tried to prove anything about the basis of consciousness. I believe I have a soul, but I don't expect you to believe I have one. It is a rather subjective experience. I suspect "scientific" investigation is not likely to help since it remains beyond the reach of science. It is a rather fascinating discussion, but only in a recreational way. I see lots of castles in the air in the article, but I don't see where they intend to land if ever. Do you? I did not read it all. It might serve to note here that Hindu philosophy says that the only way to perceive the atman ("soul") is directly, there is no circuitous route. That might save some of those people lots of trouble. It is not as entertaining as Hindu philosophy and no more scientific.

    Or if it is maybe you could cut to the chase.