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Post by stargazer1682 on Feb 3, 2019 15:11:19 GMT
I agree 4 was blegh but 5 was pretty fucking awesome, I mean puppet angel, PUPPET ANGEL!!! 
How can you not love that shit?
Plus Spike & Angel's pettiness with each other always cracks me up.
Was Season 4 really that bad? We just re-watched it on DVD and are re-watching Season 5 now and I think Season 5 was better than Season 4 but while there were a lot of disappointing things in Season 4 I still think there were some good episodes and I liked Gwen and would have liked to have found out more about her powers and where she came from. She was very much what they call a metahuman in the 'Arrowverse' shows and I was surprised they didn't keep her around for Season 5 and had her join the team since they lost Cordelia and could have made her the second female lead after Fred. Two of the main things I liked about Season 4 was Faith coming back and I liked the episodes she was in the most and I liked some of their fights with the Beast and having them fight an almost unstoppable villain but the way they got rid of him was really disappointing.  Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good moments in season 4; and you mentioned several of them, but it was so all over the place and the general arc was dull and dreary. Connor was at his absolute worst; "Cordelia" wasn't much better entertainment-wise. I mean, I get that it turns out not to really be Cordelia in the drivers seat, but it was just sort of jarring; the writing feels disjointed. Her screwing Connor just seems out of the blue and really forced. Definitely would be my lowest ranked season of the series, but still ranks higher than say, Season 6 of Buffy; or even weaker seasons of any of the Arrowverse shows.
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