Post by stargazer1682 on Feb 23, 2019 21:35:02 GMT
Feb 23, 2019 12:45:38 GMT @deblovesbeccy said:
Yeah. It was and you can really see how it was all over the place with the way it kept changing throughout that season up until the end with Jasmine and Connor going crazy and trying to kill all those people and do you know if Connor was always meant to go crazy like that when they first introduced him as a baby in Season 3 or they had other plans for him 'cause I think they always planned to age him but they might have had something else in mind for him. Seeing him get his memories back in Season 5 and come back to help Angel makes me think if Season 6 had happened he would have returned full time or as a reoccurring character at the least who started to get along with his Father and helped him fight evil. I agree with you about Cordelia and her sleeping with Connor was sick and twisted in a way 'cause he was only a baby not long before that and she was the closest thing he had to a Mother as Angel said but it wasn't Cordelia in the driver's seat and I doubt the real Cordy would have done that. We have finished watching all of 'Angel' now and I am still kinda disappointed over the ending and what they did with Fred and I think they should have made it that Fred and Illyria shared the same body and could go back and forth and not Fred being gone with Illyria in her body and what was the big purpose of Illyria? Was she going to be a big part of the following season?
In hindsight I agree Illyria served no great purpose in the show, so why kill Fred to make room for Illyria? But I do think it was because she was meant to have a bigger part to play or a more vital part in the next season, I mean Angel declared all out war on Wolfram & Hart and they set a dragon after him for heavens sake, Fred's awesome and all but she cant take no dragon down.
I don't agree that Ilyria was pointless; there's a lot of heft to that whole arc that are worth the price of admission alone and Amy Acker killed it through the whole thing. I mean, starting with "You are my sunshine," up to "Would you like me to lie to you now" - then transforming mid-punch from Fred back into Ilyria.
I would expect had the series continued, they might have done more with plumbing the depths of Ilyria and what it means for her to be in Fred's body and have her memories. I've always thought there's a great deal to explore just with the concept of identity; and if Ilyria has access to so much of what made Fred, Fred, does something of her potentially survive?
But it also brought the season into sharper focus; it underscored the reality of the world they stepped into and that they were obviously kidding themselves to think they could change it instead of the other way around. It brought the team back together and gave it purpose; and that little thread of Gunn unwittingly being the one at fault was great.
From what I've read, the idea was mainly rooted in Joss knowing what Amy could bring as an actor and wanting to explore a different facet of her range; and I can't say I blame him, because she did such an amazing job.