Post by mslo79 on Jun 13, 2019 1:18:20 GMT
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You completely ignored the whole basic 'innocent til proven guilty' thing above. which is a major problem right there.
but that aside for a moment... I doubt any decent person, Catholic or not, would cover up legitimate abuse unless they are quite corrupt. anyone with a conscience would not ignore that if they knew for certain some child/kid etc is being abused. those that do will be culpable before God for it as even if they did not directly take part in the abuse, if they cover it up, they are going to pay dearly for that.
so sure, it seems pretty safe to say there are cases of abuse that have happened in the Catholic church. but when it comes to giving someone jail time and other serious claims... you have to have some sort of proof otherwise the accused would be innocent by default as it's just the way things work. so sure, it sucks that things have been covered up but without proof, what can you really do? ; as without proof one has to be assumed innocent as it's just the way things work.
either way, even if some corrupt priests etc get away with the abuse in this life, they will pay severely for it in the next as they can't cheat God.
What is disgraceful is the way the Catholic Church and now Catholic apologists like yourself covered up the evidence of these crimes for so many years so that it would be ore difficult for the victims who were mostly children at the time to be believed, and TEN claim that they are 'fake' claims.
You completely ignored the whole basic 'innocent til proven guilty' thing above. which is a major problem right there.
but that aside for a moment... I doubt any decent person, Catholic or not, would cover up legitimate abuse unless they are quite corrupt. anyone with a conscience would not ignore that if they knew for certain some child/kid etc is being abused. those that do will be culpable before God for it as even if they did not directly take part in the abuse, if they cover it up, they are going to pay dearly for that.
so sure, it seems pretty safe to say there are cases of abuse that have happened in the Catholic church. but when it comes to giving someone jail time and other serious claims... you have to have some sort of proof otherwise the accused would be innocent by default as it's just the way things work. so sure, it sucks that things have been covered up but without proof, what can you really do? ; as without proof one has to be assumed innocent as it's just the way things work.
either way, even if some corrupt priests etc get away with the abuse in this life, they will pay severely for it in the next as they can't cheat God.