I do not believe that Michael Jackson was a predator...

Jul 26, 2019 20:07:20 GMT dirtypillows said:

Jul 26, 2019 16:57:44 GMT lenlenlen1 said:

I hope you're joking because it sounds a little bit like you're making light of this.

You would forgive him if he molested, several times, over years, YOUR children, because he was a sweetheart? You would consider him a "poor guy", "decent" if he molested YOUR kids?

He doesn't need bad feelings for him evened out. He needed mental health help while incarcerated.

The thing about Michael Jackson is that I think he saw himself as a child and unlike a true predator, I don't believe that he had sinister intentions whatsoever.  In fact, quite the opposite.   And I guess to be specific, what do you classify as molestation?   I doubt very seriously if he did anything past what children do - show me yours and I'll show you mine - and that would be the worst thing that he might have done.  I don't think that he did anything more extreme than that.   And what's more, true child molesters are more than happy to take away the innocence of the child.  They are all about exploiting their innocence and this is exactly what Michael Jackson did not do.  I very seriously doubt that any of the boys have any ill feeling towards MJ nor are they suffering today because of their association with the guy.

Obviously I am not joking.  You already knew that.

I don't have kids.  It's too big a responsibility.

Forgiveness is key.   Whether or not you are in a forgiving spirit is up to you, but hanging on to all the anger is horrible for the soul.

I'll start with your last point. Forgiveness IS key. I agree. But only AFTER the person has been punished (jail time) for their crimes. I do believe in redemption, but only after real actions have been taken... which are A) admission and acceptance of guilt, and B) atonement according to the law, which may come in the form of fines or jail time or both.

And yes, I do realize these are no longer applicable to MJ.

If you see the Documentary Leaving Neverland you will hear accusations (which I believe) that he did in fact do MUCH worse than just "show me yours and I'll show you mine". Much worse. And he kept on doing it, over many years, with many victims. It was very hard to watch. Very few documentaries or works of fiction made me feel that uncomfortable.

If these accusations are true, then yes of course he exploited their innocence, and yes they do feel horrible about what happened to them, to the point that it still affects them now. Just because he bought them toys and played with them and hid the misconduct under he guise of child like play doesn't mean they didn't grow up and realize what was happening.

I guess we'll never know 100% for sure exactly what happened. But come on... we all thought something was suspicious. All the little boys, all the pay offs, all the accusations... Where's there's smoke there's a fire. Well there's a little too much smoke there imo.

I wonder if you'd watch the doc and then tell me what you thought. I'd like to hear your opinions about it.