Post by goz on Sept 6, 2019 21:47:18 GMT
Sept 6, 2019 4:03:06 GMT goz said:
You have said that I am no good at statistical analysis (which I strongly contest)HOWEVER...I can count.
In this thread. the five times that Film Flaneur has proven you wrong is more wrong than the three times you have accused him of being wrong just now.
It is important for FilmFlaneur to understand that he is not the arbiter of other people's meanings when they speak. Lofty and admirable the goal of everyone everywhere always meaning exactly the same thing with their terms, it is not practical with many of the terms in much controversy. It might be easy for everyone to agree what a "tuning fork" is, but the definition of a "Christian" is too controversial to expect meanings to align across all speakers. FilmFlaneur expects to solve the problem by means of his authority (he has no wits), however his trifling and superficial experience with the real world makes that unlikely. Where controversy and debate arise professionals agree to ad hoc definitions of terms. In that way there is communication. Otherwise people simply talk past each other without communicating. Obviously FilmFlaneur has never been in a professional debate, real controversy or otherwise. I suspect he is trying to avoid communication rather than facilitate it. These definitions in no way invalidate the definitions useful before or after in other contexts.
I suspect much of his (and your) confusion is the result of the belief that definitions exist outside any speaker's immediate use of one. Definitions do not. What appears in the dictionary are labels that have been useful in communication especially about reality. To ignore the reality, to ignore the facts, to ignore the problem at hand in order to preserve some mere label out of several labels is not useful and therefore illogical. My definitions are practical in this context and that is really the only place they need to be practical. In other contexts it might make sense to use other definitions. The definition of the word "table" can depend on whether the discussion is about furniture or a collection of data. Usually the context makes clear which is meant. Just as there are different uses of the word "table" there are different uses of the words "Christian" and "religion." To argue that his use is correct to the exclusion of other uses is absurd in adult society.
Your fail to communicate because that is what grunts do when enforcing their will on others.
It still, however remains that in ALL contexts 'Christianity' is still a 'religion', or pertaining to one of some kind.
When is it not?

