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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 29, 2019 19:25:00 GMT
None of which mitigates the observation that, broadly speaking, FGM and MGM share their roots and justification in religious and cultural practices and are very often enacted on those unable to give consent. Which is, still, the point. BTW: Please quote when I have told you that "stupid people do in fact represent religion". Otherwise this is just another straw man. It had been (and sometimes still is) a common complaint by atheists that "religious" people perform less well in statistical surveys of things like divorce rates, income levels, education levels, and other metrics. I pointed out that such results required counting many "Christians" who are not really very religious. I noted correctly that if you exclude Christianity and count only every other religion in surveys they perform better than Christians and atheists. I suggested we need a term for "religious" people that correctly categorizes them with like types. You being oblivious of practical and meaningful terminology demanded that I must accept such "Christians" in my definition of religion. So I present no straw man. You on the other hand demand I accept your definition of religion, which is very much a straw man, and not my definition at all. You appear to have no talent for categorizing things. Jews and Arabs have more in common with each other than with either Christians or atheists. Christians and atheists have more in common with each other than with either Jews or Arabs. You need categories that group similar things in the same category, different things in different categories. Perhaps one day it will occur to you that you are not the sole arbiter of all meaning, and cannot be, and have no talent for it anyway. Neither do you represent the sole arbiter of meaning since there isn't one. I think this was covered before, and it is not clear what it has to do with this thread and the current subject. (I did say then that it is best to take at face value the claims of the religious, and so when they say they perform genital mutilation for religious reasons then one ought to take them at their word, as they would best placed to know.) It certainly does not affect my point about FGM and MGM being broadly comparable, something which you deny, for no reason given. You will also need to quote where I have 'defined religion', other than making out some very general similarities with superstition, or that will be a second straw man.
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