Why does God hate Tattoos?

Why does God hate Tattoos? Sept 29, 2019 19:50:48 GMT

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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 29, 2019 19:50:48 GMT

Sept 29, 2019 19:25:00 GMT FilmFlaneur said:

Sept 29, 2019 19:23:09 GMT Arlon10 said:

It had been (and sometimes still is) a common complaint by atheists that "religious" people perform less well in statistical surveys of things like divorce rates, income levels, education levels, and other metrics. I pointed out that such results required counting many "Christians" who are not really very religious. I noted correctly that if you exclude Christianity and count only every other religion in surveys they perform better than Christians and atheists. I suggested we need a term for "religious" people that correctly categorizes them with like types. You being oblivious of practical and meaningful terminology demanded that I must accept such "Christians" in my definition of religion. So I present no straw man.

You on the other hand demand I accept your definition of religion, which is very much a straw man, and not my definition at all. You appear to have no talent for categorizing things. Jews and Arabs have more in common with each other than with either Christians or atheists. Christians and atheists have more in common with each other than with either Jews or Arabs. You need categories that group similar things in the same category, different things in different categories. Perhaps one day it will occur to you that you are not the sole arbiter of all meaning, and cannot be, and have no talent for it anyway. Neither do you represent the sole arbiter of meaning since there isn't one.

I think this was covered before, and it is not clear what it has to do with this thread and the current subject.. It certainly does not affect my point about FGM and MGM being broadly comparable.

You will also need to quote where I have defined religion, or that will be a second straw man.

   I don't need to do anything. Religious people are better scientists, earn more money, are better educated, have lower divorce rates and generally perform better in most metrics. Those are the facts. That you still have difficulty facing this truth is not my problem.

   The group often described as "Christians" presents a problem with terminology. By some definitions, if only their own, they are "religious." By most other definitions quite large numbers of them do not fit well, are not religious. If you want to say that "religion" is a problem you could be correct if by "religion" you mean Christianity, but that is ignoring the obvious difference between much "Christianity" and all other religion. Why do you believe you have any point? You obviously do not.

   Islam and other religions in very underdeveloped countries might also have people with terribly misinformed notions of their religion. That is no excuse for you to blame religion for their problems. Their problem is poverty, not religion.

   People who imagine "science" is the only means to settle differences in society are obviously seriously mentally retarded. They are not scientists at all. See my first paragraph. You may join their ranks if you like. First you should know that they are particularly inept at science. They are particularly inept at making any case for any policy, which is the reason Trump is president. I'm sorry that happened. I hope a better leader is found soon.