Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 22:00:14 GMT
Nov 11, 2019 20:07:44 GMT @cat said:
I've never seen anyone argue Rogers had severe health problems and I didn't get it from the movie, so to me it looks like you're inventing their arguments for them and refuting that.justanaveragejoe : "He had several medical problems."
Chris Evans' favrite MCU scene
justanaveragejoe : "he wasn't lazy, he had a ton of health issues."
poutinep : "He wasn't lazy, he had a bunch of health conditions which prevented him from getting big. This is part of his file from CA:TFA."
Wonder Woman following a similar path as Captain America films
Grabthar's Hammer : "He had multiple health problems that wouldn't allow him to join"
True or False: Captain America Edition
Lord Death Man : "While Rogers is never seen exercising or working out, it's safe to assume that this "shortcut" was taken due to Roger's numerous health problems"
Diana's thinking when facing Ares (spoiler)
zoilus : "just shut the fuck up. . . . Cap wasn't just a 'skinny kid too lazy to workout.' He was sickly, he had a bunch of health conditions."
I've never made anything up. As you can see in the links above, several MCU fans on this board have claimed that the reason Steve Rogers couldn't get into the Army was because he had severe health problems. A couple MCU fans even posted an image of Steve Roger's medical report.
So I'm just asking the question (which MCU fans seem afraid to answer): If Steve Rogers had severe health problems, then why the fuck was he so selfish to want to join the Army and become a liability in the battlefield and put his fellow soldiers at risk since his fellow soldiers would not only have to fight their own battles but also fight Rogers' battles on the battlefield? That's extremely selfish and not heroic at all!
I guess I missed it. I don't remember Rogers being that worse for the wear. I knew he was scrawny and possibly asthmatic (I don't recall) but I sure didn't think he was on death's doorstep.
I suppose the logic would be to build up the pretense of how unfit to be a soldier he is so his transformation can provide contrast. As for why he wanted to join the army, I guess the answer is he wanted to make a difference. With or without knowing if he could, he wanted to so much that it trumped his judgment. It came on the heals of him losing his mother and having no one but Bucky. It also comes from a disposition of not letting one's weaknesses come at the expense of their strengths.
It doesn't just look good conceptually on paper. I thought Chris Evans did really well. He was clearly not about to be chosen to join the army for all the reasons that disqualified him before, but he ran into the scientist who felt people without the power won't take it for granted. It's been said throughout time if you want to test a man's character, give him power. One of the best decisions within that universe was that scientist's hunch this scrawny kid from Brooklyn was worth the most advanced serum ever developed.
A couple MCU fans even posted an image of Steve Roger's medical report.
That's very cute.
Regardless, he's not a brilliant man. He's a sad but cautiously optimistic mama's boy with no mama, no past, few characters in his life to live up to or disappoint, so he joined the army. In his mind, he was always saving people, rescuing people, helping people, then the experiment let his insides become his outsides and he matured into what he'd been all along. The man would rather be trying to get into the army for the umpteenth time instead of being on a date. He knows what his priorities are.