Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 22:55:34 GMT
I know full well what the functions of the bass player and other musicians in a band are. The bass player needs to be in sync with the drummer and is part of the rhythm section. A lot of guitarists can switch from guitar to bass. But if one them says they play the guitar and doesn't see any reason to say they play bass because they haven't played in a long time, is that a lie?
And I never disputed Paul's abilities. I said that if you can find the worst song the Beatles ever recorded, Paul probably wrote it.
Both John and Yoko didn't like him. And he himself said in an interview that Yoko told him in so many words to fuck off when he called her after John was killed.
I'm just saying? Being a guitar player and just switching to bass, easy as pie? Not really, not if the guitar/bass person wants to be a good bassist, who melodically pushes the rhythm section .
It's two completely different approaches. Bass has far more in common with piano or even a horn section than a guitar. Two completely different registers, which play different roles in the way our modern ears have been culturally trained to hear music.
Knowing the notes, and being able to play guitar licks on a bass is rudimentary at best. That might work for a very simple blues rock outfit, covering Mountain, Cream, Black Sabbath or even some Led Zep, but? Not going to help one much when getting out of that limited genre. BTW, I love that limited genre, but it's almost invisible today.
Running 8th notes in Van Halen ain't going to help one play Motown, or modern R&B.
BTW, I'm one who got into bass playing the way you said: I used to do acoustic acts at wine and cheese dinner bars, jammed with other guitarists in my off time, and? When we had three guitars, drums, keyboard and a hot young female vocalist? The three of us had to figure out who was going to do the bass. You know how I 'won/lost' that decision? The other two players had more money and equipment than I did, and supplied me with a bass and a rig. Our vocalist used to complain about the 3 of us 'competing' even after I'd moved to bass. She was right. But I didn't believe it back then. I was a very decent guitar player, as good as the other two (at least), and? Like you say? Was absolutely convinced my knowledge of notes and technique on the fretboard was all there was to it.
In my defense, I was only 17 at the time, and never even considered playing bass. I didn't want to, TBH.
It wasn't until long after that band was gone, the usmc,a professional career in the workforce later, that? A few friends of mine asked me to do bass as a 'favor' until they could find someone permanent. I was about 25 or so. Playing the kind of stuff (heavy blues rock). We were OK, got a couple of local paying gigs, and? I wanted to not play with a pick, so I bought a couple of books, started reading bass player magazine, studied motown, beatles, weather report, yes, the police, miles davis, stanley clarke, darryl jones (who basically wound up replacing Wyman in the Stones to make money: he had played for sting and miles davis earlier in his career). It was only then that I began to understand what bass playing is really about.
It really is 'apples and oranges'. I'm pushing back on the idea that 'any guitarist can play bass', etc.
A guitar player who plays a bass sometimes is often enough exactly that: a guitar player playing a bass. Not a bassist. There is decidedly a difference.
Oh, BTW? "John hates Paul". That's just the kind of BS one used to read in Creem or Circus magazine in the 70's to sell copies. I've explained this to you many times, you willfully choose not to even consider it.
The Beatles were like brothers. They all knew who they were, and weren't afraid to snipe at each other in public. Which has nothing to do with 'hate'.
What you said is why I didn't say I'm a bassist. I haven't played that instrument in a long time. Cinemachinery brought up something I said TWO YEARS AGO that I said because it was pertinent to the topic at the time, and he's trying to act like I said I was a professional bassist.