'Why does God allow suffering?'

'Why does God allow suffering?' Dec 31, 2019 8:06:50 GMT

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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 31, 2019 8:06:50 GMT

Dec 31, 2019 5:50:55 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

Dec 30, 2019 13:46:01 GMT OldSamVimes said:

This thread is about people who ask the question 'Why does God allow suffering'?

Or, 'If there's a God, why would He allow suffering?'

In both instances we're assuming some sort of God exists for the sake of the question. It's a philosophical question and 'proof of God' doesn't enter into it at all.

Have our brains evolved towards appreciating certain aesthetics? Why is it that many people can walk past a beautiful sunset and not notice anything spectacular? Perhaps a feeling of awe is the default and all our conditioning with schools and media limit and narrow our perspectives?

I understand, but my entire point is that in order to answer the question you have to have some knowable facts about God, otherwise you can rationalize why god (any god) might would allow suffering. How is that any different than the "how many angles can fit on the head of a pin?" question; in either scenario, you're just making up an answer with no evidence to support it.

To say our brains evolved towards anything doesn't mean some individuals haven't developed to varying degrees, or don't place more emphasis on certain aspects of what the brain can do than others. Perhaps someone doesn't recognize the beauty of a sunset, but they recognize the beauty of a Mozart symphony, or a Keats poem, or a Van Gogh painting, or their child's laughter, or their partner's smile, etc. Not many people find nothing about reality beautiful, but it's awfully arrogant to claim that those who don't find what you find beautiful to be spiritually unconscious.

You don't need to know anything about the God(s) being discussed to see that any question including ANY imagined God will also have the component of an afterlife of some sort.

There are no religions or belief systems where people believe in God(s), but also think 'When you die, that's it.'

There are two main 'templates' for Gods, external and separate, or all-pervasive. Western or Abrahamic religions in the first case and Eastern religions in the second case. As far as I know, they all have an afterlife of some sort.

If unconscious people don't like being told they're unconscious then they should start seeking.

It was interesting when you said that people who use the term 'Spiritually Unconscious' are probably 'using it to feel they're more enlightened than others', even though it's a commonly used phrase if you look it up.