'Why does God allow suffering?'

'Why does God allow suffering?' Jan 4, 2020 0:27:17 GMT

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Post by OldSamVimes on Jan 4, 2020 0:27:17 GMT

Jan 3, 2020 19:07:33 GMT FilmFlaneur said:

Jan 3, 2020 6:45:15 GMT OldSamVimes said:

Of course I'm not certain of anything. ... it's a fact.

Er -I am not sure if these two statements are compatible lol

the fact ...

And again. But even so:

... you can have afterlife with no Gods doesn't mean it works both ways.

You apparently consider afterlife and god like a metaphysical shoe and sock, always together because most people wear them like that. But if you admit that one can claim an shoe worn without sock, afterlife without god, then the necessary link is broken, either way.

And you still haven't explained why, logically, a Cause would have to create an afterlife which remains my point. I agree such a connection is popular - just not logically necessary. The Argument from Popularity is a fallacy. Even if all those who believe in a deity believe in an afterlife it does make them necessarily right to associate the two, or to think that one is responsible for the other. Since I don't want to keep repeating myself I will leave it at that.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Perhaps an argument from popularity is a fallacy, but in the absence of a single instance, a single example of a belief system that contains God(s) but no spirit-worlds, heavens, reincarnation of other form of afterlife then I can say that, as far as human belief systems go, where there are God(s) there is a belief that 'When you die, that's not it'.

I never said anything about one being responsible for the other. Like you said, there can be beliefs in all sorts of afterlife scenarios that contain no 'Gods'. whatsoever.