Will you go to a cinema this year.?

Will you go to a cinema this year.? Apr 23, 2020 12:01:15 GMT

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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 23, 2020 12:01:15 GMT

Apr 23, 2020 10:13:56 GMT mslo79 said:

Eva Yojimbo

The odds of dying in a car crash are about 1 in 106. The death rate from coronavirus right now in the US is 1 in 18. So the death rate of the latter is about 6x higher than the odds of dying in a car crash.

Your missing the point... car accident or COVID-19, the odds of dying from either is low enough not to be a real concern for the vast majority of people. you really THAT worried about a virus that only has a small chance to kill someone?

also, that 1/18 death rate (which is 5.6%) is exaggerated as it's safe to say many more people have caught it that do not register in the statistics which basically makes the real death rate percentage much lower. I don't think anyone can dispute this as the only question is... how many more people have caught it vs what they actually measured so far as it could be a little bit but it could be a lot more. chances are it's quite a bit more than what they officially counted. hence, the real death rate percentage is quite a bit less.

Plus, as has been said, it's not just about YOUR health when it comes to CV, but everyone you could potentially spread it to, which means everyone you'd encounter at home and in public, including those theaters. Plus, if everyone takes your advice and risks it, and the cases spike (which they would), that will overwhelm the medical industry who then won't be able to adequately take care of all the patients, raising the probability of dying from it even higher. Of course, you've been brainwashed by the lying idiots in the far-right media who prefer their feelings to the scientific facts, so I don't expect you to know/understand any of this.

But so far they have been wrong a lot on their data (so it's not like they have reliable data to base their choices on which makes it more opinion than hard facts). in the real world things have been far less than they predicted with death rates. the left often lies and you rarely get the truth from the mainstream media in general.

keep in mind when I said distancing I was specifically referring to a person your living with as it's pointless to distance oneself in a theater if your living with that person (because if either of you had it, the other already has a high enough chance to get it since your living with them). I can understand trying to avoid others and all to some degree though but it's not worth obsessing over it.

also, I get they don't want medical industry to be overwhelmed and all but so far it's not even been close to being overwhelmed nationally. I am confident the virus is not as bad as the mainstream media makes it out to be when is all said and done.

some claim the real death rate could be 0.xx%. if that's even close to being true then the virus is FAR overblown. because the 5.6% does not take into account the many others who likely contracted COVID-19 as when you factor these in, of which there are likely many of them, that 5.6% declines quite a bit. so I think even being generous the death rate is probably no more than 2-4% TOPS.

you've been brainwashed by the lying idiots in the far-right media who prefer their feelings to the scientific facts

The left are the ones who base stuff more on feelings than science etc in general. hell, some seem to think one can choose their own gender even though it's set by nature. it's pure insanity. or those types who let biological males compete in female sports. it just ruins female sports since it's basically a male competing in a female sport and everyone knows males are stronger/faster. but the left prefers their insane politics over common sense.

So who gets to decide what counts as "the odds being low enough" so that it's an acceptable risk to engage in certain activities that will endanger everyone, including those NOT participating in those activities? You? Last I checked, this is a democracy, and luckily most of our elected leaders are choosing to listen to scientists and doctors and not the ignorant, raving lunatics like yourself.

And what evidence, pray tell, do you base the claim that "the 5.6% death rate is exaggerated?" Speculating that many more have caught it than have been reported is meaningless unless you also calculate how many have died without it being reported, which has almost certainly happened as well because the disease can go from mild to deadly extremely quickly. I literally just saw my doctor yesterday and he said a friend of his went from mild symptoms to being dead within 36 hours. The rest of that is just you talking out your ass.

Saying that "scientists have been wrong in their data" (which data is that? From what source? What were they wrong about? And according to what OTHER data were they wrong about it?) is pointless because science is always updating its models based on new evidence/information. Predictions are made based on the best evidence of the time, and if it turns out to be wrong then it turns out to be wrong, but you still have to make decisions and plans based on the best available evidence and not just say "well, they were wrong, so we might as well just ignore all the data that does exist and do whatever we want," which is precisely what you're advocating.

Yeah, not all opinions are equal; the opinions of people who know/understand the extant data and evidence, and who have expertise in that field, is more valuable than the opinions of ignoramuses like yourself and everyone you're getting your news/opinions from. The MSM is, by and large, just reporting what the majority of scientists/medical professionals are saying as well as the statistics and relevant stories about CV; it's entirely the right that's trying to ignore that expertise. Also, things have been "much less worse than predicted" only because we followed the recommended measures to slow/prevent the spread, so the argument that because those measures are working that means we should stop doing them is lunacy.

As for the rest, I don't give a flying rate carcass what you think the "real death rate" is, nor do I care how serious you think it isn't, or how you think the MSM is lying. You're just pulling all of this straight from your ass and it should be dismissed by others with the same ease at which you pulled it.

Of course your statement about the right/left and facts/feeling is completely backwards. It's why the vast majority of scientists aren't Republican/conservative: www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/public-praises-science-scientists-fault-public-media/ And for anyone who'd like a nice image of just how stark the difference is:

Plus, there's actual scientific research out there that shows that liberals are more open to changing their mind with new evidence/data (just like scientists) while conservatives are fear-based and base most of their values and beliefs on that fear. I'm not going to get into the gender issue with you, because just like with CV I guarantee you know absolutely nothing of the science on the matter, nor do you care. You're exactly the type that has your beliefs first and only care about facts as long as they support what you already believe.