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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 19, 2020 23:12:41 GMT
I'll kinda defend movieliker here. He did qualify it with "in my experience." I mentioned early on that it could be that he just hasn't encountered any atheists who were knowledgeable about religion. Well maybe; it is certainly an absolute statement of his experience, as well as similar overwheening comment on others. Just as would be, for instance, such a statement as "whenever I go on holiday it has been a terrible vacation, those who criticise that view don't know holidays and are stupid". The sense in which he qualifies things through his experience doesn't feel conditional, it more gives an impression of being used in justifying a sweeping view. That is he doesn't take the subjective nature of experience sensibly, as necessarily being limited, but instead as a implied confirmation of an overall reality, including an unflattering judgement on others expressed in absolute terms. With this, no argument from the "asses" is acceptable, it seems. Your point is similar to that which induced his spate of rudeness instead of a straight answer way back at the start, when I asked: "So some who criticise you, in your experience, do really know religion?" ("but some people on that holiday might have enjoyed it?"). A response not surprising, since Movieliker would have to accept this reasonable qualification if his claim is not to be taken as absolute, as he insists - one which I would be happy to accept. His recent " All intelligent believers have a personal relationship with God.", one noted, was not even qualified by his unassailable experience, which just adds to the sense of someone expecting his judgements to be taken as definitive. But this is all water under the bridge. His most recent absolute statement, and the continuing impression it gives, I have dealt with in my last posting. I don't disagree with you, I was merely saying that based on that original post his position wasn't clearly so absolute. As I suggested in my last post, it seems that movieliker's entire categorization of intelligent VS ignorant non-believers is based on whether he feels attacked by them.
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