Post by mslo79 on May 25, 2020 16:47:35 GMT
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I tend to see the atheist definition like this... when you die you cease to exist, like you were never born. nothingness.
so by that standard the answer to the topic would be... no.
Toasted Cheese
No, at least not us Christians.
but speaking from a Catholic perspective (which is the True Church of Jesus Christ since He started it with Peter(basically the first Pope) and it went down through the generations til today) when you die here on earth your basically judged by Jesus Christ and then one of three things happen...
-Heaven (immediate entrance to Heaven "IF" your pure enough to immediately enter it (which in my opinion is unlikely for a high percentage of people(see Purgatory below)))
-Purgatory (assuming one does not end up in hell, in my opinion, the vast majority of people will be in this state which purifies them from their sin (through intense suffering as we are being purified from our attachment to sin) before they ultimately reach Heaven.)
-Hell (basically if a person passes from this life into the next in a state of mortal sin, your doomed for eternity in hell. nothing but hate/misery exists here far beyond anything one can experience here on earth and it's non-stop all of the time. but this is not God's fault, as those who end up here did it to themselves by rejecting God and His ways. they choose evil over good.)
NOTE: if a person is truly in a state of mortal sin here in this life on earth the ordinary way one gets right with God again is through the Sacrament of Confession which restores their soul to a state of grace so if they die they can ultimately obtain Heaven once again. ill also add this... venial sin(mild sin) only wounds ones relationship with God, mortal sin(serious sin) destroys it.
NOTE: ones degree of holiness in this life determines how much joy they will have in Heaven. but I heard some put it like this... while everyone is perfectly happy in Heaven (as no suffering/negativity whatsoever exists there), some have a higher degree of it. sort of like a full shot glass vs a full cup, both are full but one has more. but to be crystal clear... even the lowest person in Heaven, there joy/happiness far exceeds what one can experience here on earth from earthly pleasure. so if even someone was sort of the "bottom-of-the-barrel" in Heaven, it's not like they are going to be complaining in the slightest
Atheist is just a person who don`t belive in God.
I tend to see the atheist definition like this... when you die you cease to exist, like you were never born. nothingness.
so by that standard the answer to the topic would be... no.
Toasted Cheese
Can a theist believe in reincarnation?
No, at least not us Christians.
but speaking from a Catholic perspective (which is the True Church of Jesus Christ since He started it with Peter(basically the first Pope) and it went down through the generations til today) when you die here on earth your basically judged by Jesus Christ and then one of three things happen...
-Heaven (immediate entrance to Heaven "IF" your pure enough to immediately enter it (which in my opinion is unlikely for a high percentage of people(see Purgatory below)))
-Purgatory (assuming one does not end up in hell, in my opinion, the vast majority of people will be in this state which purifies them from their sin (through intense suffering as we are being purified from our attachment to sin) before they ultimately reach Heaven.)
-Hell (basically if a person passes from this life into the next in a state of mortal sin, your doomed for eternity in hell. nothing but hate/misery exists here far beyond anything one can experience here on earth and it's non-stop all of the time. but this is not God's fault, as those who end up here did it to themselves by rejecting God and His ways. they choose evil over good.)
NOTE: if a person is truly in a state of mortal sin here in this life on earth the ordinary way one gets right with God again is through the Sacrament of Confession which restores their soul to a state of grace so if they die they can ultimately obtain Heaven once again. ill also add this... venial sin(mild sin) only wounds ones relationship with God, mortal sin(serious sin) destroys it.
NOTE: ones degree of holiness in this life determines how much joy they will have in Heaven. but I heard some put it like this... while everyone is perfectly happy in Heaven (as no suffering/negativity whatsoever exists there), some have a higher degree of it. sort of like a full shot glass vs a full cup, both are full but one has more. but to be crystal clear... even the lowest person in Heaven, there joy/happiness far exceeds what one can experience here on earth from earthly pleasure. so if even someone was sort of the "bottom-of-the-barrel" in Heaven, it's not like they are going to be complaining in the slightest
