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Art or science? Jun 6, 2020 3:49:05 GMT

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Post by gameboy on Jun 6, 2020 3:49:05 GMT

Jun 6, 2020 1:33:52 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

Jun 5, 2020 16:05:32 GMT gameboy said:

I'm a Zen master who studied the Eightfold Path in a Tibetan lamasery and reached Nirvana.

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Not really

But my point is that the famous Zen koan the sound of one hand clapping is illogical, is it not? <<< [LGBT eyes]

Lady, this great thread has parameters. The OP knew there would be many jackasses protesting with a lisp "Astrology is neither a Science or an Art!!! It's 'toooooooopid!!!" That's not the f*****g point!!!

You were asked to choose between the two. Astrology is more a science because it has rules based on observation, the movement of the planets. So I suppose if you're not a complete jackass who refuses to work within the OP's parameters, you're saying Astrology is an art?

Can you support your theory as I supported mine?

I don't think Zen koan's are illogical, I think they're designed to tickle quirks in human intuition and thinking. Logic requires a proposition about reality, which most koans aren't really.

Fair point, though, about working within the parameters of the OP, but if I were to start a thread called "animal or vegetable" and offered "doorknob" as an example, I don't know how you could argue it was either. It's simply NOT either. But, OK, if you're going to force me to make a choice between astrology being science or art, I'd say art because it's far more about imagination than making any rational conclusions based on empiricism. In the end, what the people who write horoscopes or make up "personality profiles" are doing is just using their imagination, which is far more in the realm of art.

But one hand can't clap? It will never be able to clap. I've pondered that koan before and it boggles the mind. That's why I said making these illogical choices is Zen-like.

If forced to make a choice I'd say a doorknob is more vegetable because it's not sentient. And a doorknob can also be made of wood which is definitely vegetable. See how fun this can be when you suspend logic?

Aristotle is credited with being the father of science because he was the first to use empirical methods. Yet Aristotle believed that spontaneous combustion created frogs out of trash heaps!!! Science has not always been correct. Even 20th century science was rife with errors. And actually astrologers follow historical rules which ascribe personality traits to planets and stars. They are not really using their imagination. They are following precedent.