Why was there such a backlash to the Snyder Cut movement?

Why was there such a backlash to the Snyder Cut movement? Jun 20, 2020 20:12:59 GMT via mobile

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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 20, 2020 20:12:59 GMT

Jun 20, 2020 2:04:38 GMT thisguy4000 said:

Jun 20, 2020 1:27:27 GMT moviebuffbrad said:

Calling him a bad father is pretty shitty. I also think it's clear he likes women. Perhaps he can oversexualize them, but he did make the female leads of Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen stronger than their originals. If anything, he hates gay men. But yeah, I know there's good and bad on both sides. Just seems the bad of DC fans are worse than others, and I say that as a DC fan.

I think the difference in Snyder's depiction of superheroes and Johnson's depiction of Luke is tone. TLJ is sympathetic to Luke's character - it builds on themes from Lucas' prequel trilogy that the Jedi were arrogant and fell due to their own hubris - but ultimately it shows his nihilistic attitude is wrong and he must step up at the end. Snyder on the other hand worships and ferishizes the grizzly violence of his superheroes. Snyder essentially said Batman's No Kill rule is for "virgins", and he'll misconstrue scenes from the comics to back up Batman being a sadistic prick. It's apparent that Superman fucking up Metropolis was repurposed as bad in BvS. No one comments on the collateral damage in MoS itself, and Supes is back to destroying shit in BvS, the areas are just conveniently "abandoned". Snyder and his fans bent over backwards defending the Zod kill, Snyder basically saying that's when Superman decides never to kill again. Then, first 15 minutes of BvS: he drives an African warlord through 8 walls. I think any "deconstruction" is probably just reading too much into things. Snyder, director of 300, just likes his badass killers.

Snyder cast an openly queer actor as the Flash. Saying that hates gay men seems like a stretch. Also, he didn’t say that not killing is for virgins. He said that after a story like Watchmen, superheroes were never the same again, so Batman killing people wasn’t as big a deal in comparison.

For context, this was the full quote

[Watchmen] is the end of innocence for superheroes. Superheroes are raping each other for God’s sake, they’re murdering millions of people to create world peace. So when someone says to me, “oh, Batman killed a guy,” I’m like – pffft. Like, wake the fuck up. I guess that’s what I’m saying. Once you’ve lost your virginity to [Watchmen], and then you come and say to me, like, my superhero wouldn’t do that, I’m like are you serious? I’m like down the fucking road.

And no, I don’t think Zack Snyder is some brilliant filmmaker. I just think that the way he’s characterized by some of his detractors is unfair.

Oh Jesus, haven't we had enough of each other?

The gay guy in Dawn of the Dead walked around in women's shoes torturing prisoners with his coming out stories, the Spartans in 300 derisively call the Persians "boy-lovers" when in reality they were quite fond of boys themselves, he turned Ozymandias into a flamboyant queen who hangs out at 54 and has files of "Boys" on his computer because of an offhand comment Rorschach made about him possibly being gay, and the first thing Superman sees when he enters the shithole of Gotham is a couple of guys making out. Ezra Miller is the "I'm not racist, I have a friend who's black" defense. Mel Gibson cast a Jew in Hacksaw Ridge. Guess he has no problem with Jews.

shadowrun covered why a lot of that Watchmen stuff is bullshit. Snyder epitomizes 90s grimdark edgelord comics that were coming off of Watchmen and taking the wrong lessons from it.