Is your child being lured into witchcraft?

Is your child being lured into witchcraft? Aug 16, 2020 0:51:32 GMT

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Post by Isapop on Aug 16, 2020 0:51:32 GMT

Aug 15, 2020 23:25:25 GMT Arlon10 said:

Aug 15, 2020 19:36:58 GMT Isapop said:

Does nothing get through to you? Was my going over how the topic is not whether the Bible is true but instead whether the Bible CLAIMS to be true have no effect at all? So it appears (sadly).NOW.....finally.....your first words that actually address the topic.
So, you wanna know, "Gee, just because scripture is "God-breathed", why should we think it would necessarily be claiming to be true?"
First, my own thoughts. The connection between "God-breathed" and "true" can be assumed by default. If any "God-breathed" scripture is untrue, then God has mishandled inspiration; and God, by any religion's teaching, could not or would not do that. Therefore, the burden of proof is not on the one who accepts this connection, but rather on anyone who suggest it's not there.
For further arguments regarding where the Bible (with other scriptures in addition to that one) CLAIMS that it is true, there are plenty of articles on line by the people who have made the Bible their field of study. If you need more info on how the Bible says it's true, just look them up.
Or, if you want to save yourself the trouble, just jettison your unschooled notion that the Bible doesn't say it's true.

I suppose you will claim you missed it, but the "color green" explanation has been on this board countless times. How do you describe the color green to a person blind since before birth "literally"? You can not! Only people who have already experienced green can know what you mean "literally" by the word "green." People who have seen green can readily know the "truth" about green. Other people must depend on indirect speech, allegory, parables, and other highly symbolic communication. Actually developing an understanding of green might take a lifetime.

The "color green" explanation is irrelevant. If Jasper says that he is "dekkajnid" it doesn't matter if you know what dekkajnid means or if what Jasper says is true. It doesn't change the simple fact that Jasper says that he is.

The Bible might be "true" as I already explained, but it cannot be literally true.

Literally true or figuratively true, or each in turn, it doesn't matter. You asserted that the Bible doesn't say it's true, but the Bible does claim to be true.

The Bible does not say it is true because in fact it contains allegory, parable, and symbolism to point a person toward the truth

If you wish to point to those parables and symbolism as proof that the Bible's claim to be true is a false claim, go right ahead. That's your affair. It still doesn't change the fact that the Bible claims to be true.
I am now sure you will never look at any works written by assorted Bible scholars and theologians who will lay out various Bible passages and analysis on the subject. You much prefer to stay locked inside your own invented and baseless certitudes.