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Ride with the Devil (1999) / Ang Lee
Jake (Tobey Maguire): I say what is the good side to this amputation and there is one.
Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich) : Name it, Jake.
Jake : Well, you say one day some Federals catch up to me in a thicket. They would riddle me and hang me and no Southern man would find me for weeks or months and when they did I'd be bad meat pretty well rotted to a glob.
Jack Bull Chiles : That's scientifically accurate, I'm afraid. I've seen it.
Jake : I'd be a mysterious gob of rot. And people would say, "Who was that?" Then surely someone would look up and say, "Why it's nubbin fingered Jake Roedel." Then you could go and tell my father that I was clearly murdered and he wouldn't be tortured by uncertain wonders.
Jack Bull Chiles : And that's the good of it?
Jake : Yes sir, that's the good.


Wikipedia Plot Summary with SPOILERS
Ride with the Devil has been noted for its thematic exploration of politics, violence and war.[4] In 2010, The Criterion Collection released a restored high-definition digital transfer for the home media market, featuring an extended 148-minute director's cut of the film.
During the American Civil War, two friends join the Bushwhackers, a militant group loyal to the Confederacy.
Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich) : Name it, Jake.
Jake : Well, you say one day some Federals catch up to me in a thicket. They would riddle me and hang me and no Southern man would find me for weeks or months and when they did I'd be bad meat pretty well rotted to a glob.
Jack Bull Chiles : That's scientifically accurate, I'm afraid. I've seen it.
Jake : I'd be a mysterious gob of rot. And people would say, "Who was that?" Then surely someone would look up and say, "Why it's nubbin fingered Jake Roedel." Then you could go and tell my father that I was clearly murdered and he wouldn't be tortured by uncertain wonders.
Jack Bull Chiles : And that's the good of it?
Jake : Yes sir, that's the good.


Jake Roedel and Jack Bull Chiles are friends in Missouri when the American Civil War breaks out. During the mayhem, Chiles' father is murdered by Kansas pro-Union Jayhawkers. The two men join the First Missouri Irregulars (Bushwhackers) under Black John Ambrose, an informal unit loyal to pro-Confederacy units of Missouri in 1861. They later meet George Clyde and his slave Daniel Holt, who is serving in the Irregulars as Clyde's additional fighter. Having been trained in fire arms, and proven a good shot who is cool in combat, Holt is known as a good Yankee killer.
The Bushwhackers battle Jayhawkers using guerrilla warfare tactics while trying to evade capture. During their travels, Jake is notified that his father, a German immigrant, has been murdered by Alf Bowden, a Unionist whose life Jake spared. The men manage to hide out in a coarsely-built shelter on the property of a pro-Confederacy family, the Evanses. A young widow in the household, Sue Lee Shelley, becomes romantically involved with Chiles. During a skirmish, Chiles is severely wounded. Jack, Daniel, and Sue Lee amputate his arm, but he dies of gangrene. After Chiles' death, Roedel escorts Shelley to a refuge dwelling where another pro-Confederate kindred, the Brown family, reside.
Following the collapse and destruction of a makeshift prison holding the female relatives of guerrillas, a complementary clan of Bushwhackers led by William Quantrill plot a revenge attack against the Union and raid Lawrence, Kansas.[4] After the Bushwhacker's have overrun and killed the Union troops on the edge of town, they enter Lawrence, and commence to kill everyone they deem a Jayhawker, Federal, or supportive of them. Roedel and Holt do not engage in killing of civilians, and enter an establishment to eat. Fellow Bushwhacker Pitt Mackeson, one who has developed a predilection for killing, enters the establishment and tries to give an order to Roedel to bring out the family who own the place, presumably to be executed in the street. Mackeson had steadily grown jealous of Roedel who was viewed as intelligent by the commander of the group, and a German American, who was born in Germany but raised by his immigrant father in Missouri. He suffers from sporadic anti-German suspicion from some other Southerners, because the German population in the state is largely sympathetic to the Union. When Mackeson threatens Roedel with violence, Roedel draws his pistol and points it in Mackeson's face and dares him to carry out his threat. Mackeson backs down. Later, Union cavalry are on the trail of Quantrill's band, and they turn to attack. The Bushwackers draw the Union cavalry into a woodline and dismount into lines to deliver volley fire into the Union cavalry, in subsequent lines, as they retreat. In an episode of more hostility, Mackeson purposely shoots Roedel in the leg during the action. Holt is also hit in the side in the battle. His master tries to pull Holt away from the danger, and then is himself hit in the throat. Holt tries to do stem the bleeding, but his master dies in his arms, and Roedel pulls Holt away to mount horses and escape the Union cavalry. Once clear of the Union cavalry, Roedel and Holt make their way to Brown farm to have their wounds treated. The Brown family takes the two in, and they recuperate for a time. Both Roedel and Holt reflect on their futures. Roedel is less sure he will return to fight for the Confederate Cause, starting to think the war is going against the South. Holt realizing he has no one left without his master, the only person he cared for, begins to realize he is, however, free for the first time in his life, and begins to comprehend he faces life of his own choices. He confides in Roedel that he knew his mother was a slave who had been sold and taken to Texas, and was now the only person left of family he had.
Meanwhile, Shelley gives birth to Chiles's daughter. Holt and Roedel, both wounded, recover at the same residence that took in Shelley occupied by the Brown folk. The Browns, who mistakenly suppose Roedel is the child's father, pressure Roedel to marry her, which he is reluctant to do. However, after spending time with Shelley and the child, Roedel begins to have feelings for both of them. At the same time, Anderson and many other Bushwhackers have been killed, taken prisoner or otherwise rendered inactive. Pitt Mackeson has gathered some survivors into a gang which no longer fights the Yankees, but instead robs, murders and plunders Unionists and Southerners alike. Word comes from one of Roedel's compatriots that Mackeson and his gang are headed South and plan on visiting Roedel soon.
One day Mr. Brown takes Holt to town and returns with a reverend and Roedel, after realizing he does love Shelley and she him, marries her in an abrupt wedding. Roedel's feelings toward Shelley are further deepened by a tender wedding night together. Later, proclaiming himself finished with war, Roedel gives up being a Bushwhacker and takes his new family to California. On the way, they meet Mackeson and the last of his men, Turner, who is ragged and injured, the both of them on the run. They report Black John and Quantrill are both dead and agree with Roedel the war is lost. Mackeson tells them of his plan to ride into Newport despite the fact the town is full of Federal soldiers and certain death awaits him and Turner. Mackeson's strange manner causes Roedel and Holt to hold guns on him and Turner, but the two ride off without violence.
Holt rides with Roedel and his family toward California, until their roads part, and then Daniel tells Jake farewell, while Shelley and the baby sleep. Holt leaves for Texas, a free man, to find his long lost mother.
The Bushwhackers battle Jayhawkers using guerrilla warfare tactics while trying to evade capture. During their travels, Jake is notified that his father, a German immigrant, has been murdered by Alf Bowden, a Unionist whose life Jake spared. The men manage to hide out in a coarsely-built shelter on the property of a pro-Confederacy family, the Evanses. A young widow in the household, Sue Lee Shelley, becomes romantically involved with Chiles. During a skirmish, Chiles is severely wounded. Jack, Daniel, and Sue Lee amputate his arm, but he dies of gangrene. After Chiles' death, Roedel escorts Shelley to a refuge dwelling where another pro-Confederate kindred, the Brown family, reside.
Following the collapse and destruction of a makeshift prison holding the female relatives of guerrillas, a complementary clan of Bushwhackers led by William Quantrill plot a revenge attack against the Union and raid Lawrence, Kansas.[4] After the Bushwhacker's have overrun and killed the Union troops on the edge of town, they enter Lawrence, and commence to kill everyone they deem a Jayhawker, Federal, or supportive of them. Roedel and Holt do not engage in killing of civilians, and enter an establishment to eat. Fellow Bushwhacker Pitt Mackeson, one who has developed a predilection for killing, enters the establishment and tries to give an order to Roedel to bring out the family who own the place, presumably to be executed in the street. Mackeson had steadily grown jealous of Roedel who was viewed as intelligent by the commander of the group, and a German American, who was born in Germany but raised by his immigrant father in Missouri. He suffers from sporadic anti-German suspicion from some other Southerners, because the German population in the state is largely sympathetic to the Union. When Mackeson threatens Roedel with violence, Roedel draws his pistol and points it in Mackeson's face and dares him to carry out his threat. Mackeson backs down. Later, Union cavalry are on the trail of Quantrill's band, and they turn to attack. The Bushwackers draw the Union cavalry into a woodline and dismount into lines to deliver volley fire into the Union cavalry, in subsequent lines, as they retreat. In an episode of more hostility, Mackeson purposely shoots Roedel in the leg during the action. Holt is also hit in the side in the battle. His master tries to pull Holt away from the danger, and then is himself hit in the throat. Holt tries to do stem the bleeding, but his master dies in his arms, and Roedel pulls Holt away to mount horses and escape the Union cavalry. Once clear of the Union cavalry, Roedel and Holt make their way to Brown farm to have their wounds treated. The Brown family takes the two in, and they recuperate for a time. Both Roedel and Holt reflect on their futures. Roedel is less sure he will return to fight for the Confederate Cause, starting to think the war is going against the South. Holt realizing he has no one left without his master, the only person he cared for, begins to realize he is, however, free for the first time in his life, and begins to comprehend he faces life of his own choices. He confides in Roedel that he knew his mother was a slave who had been sold and taken to Texas, and was now the only person left of family he had.
Meanwhile, Shelley gives birth to Chiles's daughter. Holt and Roedel, both wounded, recover at the same residence that took in Shelley occupied by the Brown folk. The Browns, who mistakenly suppose Roedel is the child's father, pressure Roedel to marry her, which he is reluctant to do. However, after spending time with Shelley and the child, Roedel begins to have feelings for both of them. At the same time, Anderson and many other Bushwhackers have been killed, taken prisoner or otherwise rendered inactive. Pitt Mackeson has gathered some survivors into a gang which no longer fights the Yankees, but instead robs, murders and plunders Unionists and Southerners alike. Word comes from one of Roedel's compatriots that Mackeson and his gang are headed South and plan on visiting Roedel soon.
One day Mr. Brown takes Holt to town and returns with a reverend and Roedel, after realizing he does love Shelley and she him, marries her in an abrupt wedding. Roedel's feelings toward Shelley are further deepened by a tender wedding night together. Later, proclaiming himself finished with war, Roedel gives up being a Bushwhacker and takes his new family to California. On the way, they meet Mackeson and the last of his men, Turner, who is ragged and injured, the both of them on the run. They report Black John and Quantrill are both dead and agree with Roedel the war is lost. Mackeson tells them of his plan to ride into Newport despite the fact the town is full of Federal soldiers and certain death awaits him and Turner. Mackeson's strange manner causes Roedel and Holt to hold guns on him and Turner, but the two ride off without violence.
Holt rides with Roedel and his family toward California, until their roads part, and then Daniel tells Jake farewell, while Shelley and the baby sleep. Holt leaves for Texas, a free man, to find his long lost mother.

