Post by Arlon10 on Nov 30, 2020 23:35:01 GMT
FilmFlaneur said: [full text here]
- you echo my oft-repeated assertion that we ought take what religious people say at face value.
- I have had cause to correct you on such matters
- why [should we] take you as a guide to the 'right' cultural determinants [?]
- For everyone else here, is the case in a nutshell, from the World Health Organisation:'Gender' describes those characteristics of women and men that are largely socially created, while 'sex' encompasses those that are biologically determined. However, these terms are often mistakenly used interchangeably in scientific literature, health policy, and legislation.
- I have tried to explain to you that because the Bible is written beyond your rudimentary reading level, it is also often the case that the attempts of people to explain their beliefs to you are just as beyond your level of understanding. Try as you might to "accept" their definitions, those remain beyond your reach. It might serve your understanding to have clear definitions from an expert on English. A list is here.
- You have never successfully shown that I was, am, or ever will be in any error.
- That is a very good question since I never offered any criteria. What I did was point out that you have none, and thus your meaning is imprecise. The meaning of "fantasy" gender is very precise because it simply means based on criteria that are not obviously biological or that are merely mental.
- That would mean so much more if the "World Health Organization" spoke English or had any cause or right to set definitions in English.
What happened that you failed to notice is that in the past "gender" was used rather strictly to refer to grammatical gender. You should readily notice that grammatical gender is very different and requires a different word. The difference between sex, the biological state, and sex, the activity, was something people solved by examining the context. Later when people like you obliterated context, the need for a different word for the state and the activity become apparent and "gender" was stolen for the state.
The obvious precise solution is to use biological gender, fantasy gender, and grammatical gender for the three needful definitions. There should be no confusion. Also the attempts to use "cultural" determinants of anything are useless (definitions are useful or not) since every culture is different.
You and the W.H.O. are very obviously not making anything more clear. I suspect it is because you do not want to see the truth.