Post by Arlon10 on Dec 2, 2020 0:08:05 GMT
FilmFlaneur said: [full text here]
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- A lack of belief in God is not agnosticism
- The criteria of 'fantasy' is purely subjective
- I would ask you to provide an authority which disagrees with the WHO distinction
- Your dragging in of grammatical gender, which plays no part in the debate, is a non-sequitur
- Here's a clue. You are not fooling anyone. Either you or someone you blindly follow is trying to distort reality rather than communicate it. You do not appreciate the value of belief, think it is some kind of disease, and refuse to admit you have any. Almost any child over ten can see how hopeless your efforts are in that regard. By your definition of agnostic everyone in the entire world is. The group who identified themselves as "Gnostics" died out centuries ago without leaving any legacy. Now that everyone is not in that group your "definition" serves no useful purpose. It should be only listed as "archaic" if at all. You are too oblivious of the way definitions work to let go. People who are not retarded have already put the word agnostic to other purposes mainly meaning simply "without a decision," which can be the case or not all over modern society.
- The negative connotation of fantasy is purely subjective. Why don't you drop that? Can you not "celebrate" your fantasies? Why not? Other people do. "The faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable," like space travel or homosexuals making babies. It's not difficult to understand.
- I want you to count something. It might take a very long time. Yet perhaps you have enough to spare times being what they are. Please count how many times I told you that "all definitions are arbitrary." If the count takes too long just guess. Professionals do not "dispute" definitions. They simply strive to obtain definitions that serve an immediate purpose of clarity.
- I arrive at definitions by cataloging things known to exist, then choosing such terms as seem necessary to separate them in communication. You arrive at existence by forcing it into a rudimentary concept you believe is "the" definition. You have it backward.