Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 2, 2020 22:55:36 GMT
FilmFlaneur said: [full text here]
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- A lack of belief in God is not agnosticism
- The criteria of 'fantasy' is purely subjective
- I would ask you to provide an authority which disagrees with the WHO distinction
- Your dragging in of grammatical gender, which plays no part in the debate, is a non-sequitur
- Here's a clue. You are not fooling anyone.
Here's another clue. The dictionary definition of 'atheism' and 'agnosticism' in a religious context are quite clear, as I quoted; so you are arguing with them rather than me. I am sure you hope to win again. Let us know when you claim your victory.
2. The negative connotation of fantasy is purely subjective.
Here you are just being disingenuous, since at the same time you call those who are gender fluid, as well as homosexuals, mentally ill and perverted. If 'fantasy' is not necessarily negative (even though still dismissive) such a view does not fit easily in with the rest of your prejudiced world view and, frankly, phobic language.
3. I want you to count something. It might take a very long time.
If I was to count the number of times you offer no substantiation for your views then that it is surely the case. But I still do not know why you are still arguing this point, since you have already told me that notions of sex and gender are often muddled which, as already noted, implies that they ought to be separate and distinct to start with. The point was, and is, that it was precisely this muddlement that brought comment in the first place - probably you thinking 'all definitions are arbitrary' was what was causing the problem.
4. I arrive at definitions by cataloging things known to exist, then choosing such terms as seem necessary to separate them in communication. You arrive at existence by forcing it into a rudimentary concept you believe is "the" definition. You have it backward.
Those would be the definitions which are arbitrary, i.e. just made up by you? Got it.