What should the Cleveland Indians choose as their new name?

What should the Cleveland Indians choose as their new name? Dec 17, 2020 14:41:25 GMT _ and hehatesshe like this

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Post by ReyKahuka on Dec 17, 2020 14:41:25 GMT

Dec 17, 2020 0:07:34 GMT millar70 said:

Dec 16, 2020 13:03:33 GMT ReyKahuka said:

Great use of the, "But I have black friends," argument. They hired black people and continued using a racist logo (of a completely different ethnicity, so what does hiring blacks prove?) for decades afterward. Do you understand racism affects other minorities, not just black people? Of course you don't, who am I kidding.

You're the stereotypical out of touch conservative white guy. "Nothing is racist because it was never racist before. Why are people always crying racism these days? Social issues aren't really problems if they don't affect me."

The rest of us will be moving on to a better world, you can keep complaining about how in the good old days, nobody spoke out about deeply imbedded cultural problems. And good luck with the aliens.

Racism doesn't just affect one race? Thanks for enlightening me on that, who knew?

I sound like an old white conservative, which is kind of a racist thing to say, btw. As usual, the guy crying racism is the guy who is actually the most racist person in the conversation. Nothing new there.

Your stupidity is at an all-time high on this argument, and we are seeing this on two different threads on the topic. A team that actually broke down racial barriers is deemed a "racist organization" because of a logo that was considered pretty harmless for decades. And even though said team is now changing the logo, they are still a "racist organization".

And in case anyone else hasn't been given enough examples of your "I'm a progressive who's gonna change your world" bullshit, you actually state that the word Redskin is as awful as the N-word. Maybe the dumbest, and insensitive, thing ever said on this forum.

Keep fighting the good fight, Ray Ray. Maybe eventually the world will be the place you think it should be, though basic human nature says probably not. And for the record, once again, I can safely bet everything I've ever owned that I have had more interactions, friendships, and arguments with blacks, Hispanics, Indians, etc than you ever had in your lifetime.

Your entire post proves my point. "The logo was deemed harmless for decades." So was every other racial injustice in history. How can you look at our history and deny progress has been made, that some things that were once deemed acceptable no longer are? How dense are you? You don't think Redskin is as bad as the N word because nobody ever told you it was. You know how they don't show some of those old cartoons with negative racial connotations anymore (no doubt another thing you complain about)? Why do you think that is? And if those are deemed unacceptable (have been for a while now), how did it take this long for the Indians to drop that ridiculous logo? Why is it inappropriate for one race and not the other? Why don't they have teams called the Blacks, the Asians, the Hispanics? Clearly I do have to explain this stuff to you.

I never said I was a "progressive who was gonna change the world," I picked the wrong outlet for that, don't you think? I'm just a guy expressing his opinion on a sports message board of all places. Are you expecting to change the world in this conversation?

Maybe eventually the world will be the place you think it should be, though basic human nature says probably not.

We're headed in the right direction, which is why you're so pissed off. Last year when this conversation came up, I would've been on this board asking why these team names are acceptable, now I no longer have to. Don't worry, I'll keep expressing my opinion, and progress will happen whether either of us affect it or not. You just keep spouting government conspiracies and social inequality denial, and complaining about content warnings to your heart's content; see where that gets you.

I have had more interactions, friendships, and arguments with blacks, Hispanics, Indians, etc

I had your 50 years beat by the age of 8, I guarantee it. Quite frankly, it's a fucking joke that you would even consider that.