Post by Admin on Dec 22, 2020 9:35:32 GMT
Not really, it comes loaded with special pleading which a logical fallacy
An uncaused cause is the conclusion, not an exception. And when someone asks what caused the uncaused cause, it isn't a rebuttal, but rather a misunderstanding of what it means to be uncaused.
"it covers a pretty good chunk of it"
How so?
How so?
Because it shows - among other things - a cause of our universe that depends on nothing else for its existence. That is a common denominator of the many different flavors of God. However, it doesn't show that it's a sentient being, only that it exists. So it's not airtight as proof of God, but then again, it doesn't claim to be. It simply concludes the existence of something that, in many ways, very closely resembles that which most people call God. Or in other words, a pretty good chunk of it.
"It's the ones who summarily dismiss believers as delusional that stall these chats."
I never said they were "delusional", though I would argue belief in God is delusional (believing in something without evidence).
I never said they were "delusional", though I would argue belief in God is delusional (believing in something without evidence).
So I can believe there's a seven ton, fifty-foot green Martian from Neptune living in my cat's litter box and not be delusional? How does that work?
"Not everyone who believes in God does so because the Bible (or a church) tells them to"
I never said that either, though environment has a huge impact on religious beliefs. It's the reason Indians tend to be Hindu, Middle Easterns tend to be Muslim, Latin Americans tend to be Catholic, etc. There's an undeniable causation between religous beliefs and environment.
I never said that either, though environment has a huge impact on religious beliefs. It's the reason Indians tend to be Hindu, Middle Easterns tend to be Muslim, Latin Americans tend to be Catholic, etc. There's an undeniable causation between religous beliefs and environment.
Different religions are just different versions of the same thing. They all believe in the existence of a "higher power;" they just disagree about what it is and what it wants.
"Some theists are actually very intelligent people who actually think for themselves."
I never said otherwise. I don't really believe anyone truly "thinks for themselves" anyways (were all essentially a product of our environment)
I never said otherwise. I don't really believe anyone truly "thinks for themselves" anyways (were all essentially a product of our environment)
Then what is our environment a product of?
By the way, not every response is a disagreement. js