If God can do anything can he make a mistake?

I see the thread title 'IF god can do anything can he make a mistake'; then I see from you that "the premise is that anything can be done." which is simply not the same premise. One is conditional, one is not. You can see how it looks if you repeatedly ignore the difference..

It is the wisest course.

This current exchange is made up of two issues, whether God can do everything or not and, related to that, the qualifying excuses made by those who offer us a God with certain absolute characteristics but then, inevitably, find excuses why they and it cannot ever be evidenced. (The dragon in the garage). If God can do anything let Him make himself known clearly and unambiguously, in the modern age. Why does He not? Otherwise you are just making a statement without substantiation. You say that a deity that can do absolutely everything could thus be invisible and visible at the same time, but do not say how it could be accomplished or described. Apparently it would just be so. But something which cannot happen is not a brute fact just because one can think of it, much less if it cannot be demonstrated.


That distinction is made to cleverly distinguish between a God which can do absolutely everything from one who can only do the possible, which I am sure we both understand. However I am pleased that you agree with the standard thought on the matter (which is more, precisely, that a God could do anything except the strictly impossible or, also change its nature) it is just a shame that the premise you state of your own accord, above, contradicts that agreement.


God can still not do what is logically incoherent (see what Stanford say) And this it, appears you agreed with. But now you don't.



Then you best amend your preferred version of the premise. I also remember that your agreement with Stanford and the prevailing thought on the matter was not something you made clear earlier. Perhaps you just forgot to mention it? Instead we had things like "It's neither reasonable nor rational to impose limits on a being that is presumed to have none." Presumed by whom? As I have shown, with reasons very few who have read the literature make this presumption, why it is thus invalid, and now, it appears, you agree with them.



Here you just sound intemperate again lol


The analogy is perfect in showing that the notion of an all-powerful deity such as you on-off support, is just not demonstrable. You cannot even tell us what a deity which is both visible and invisible at the same time would look like. (I note that you did not answer why we do not see God in this manner, when it would inevitably bring more to Him by persuasion.)



Correction: even if God can do anything He can still only do things which are logically coherent (and can't change his nature). That's the more nuanced view you now, apparently, agree with. At least sometimes.


Since the question was not ever over whether you believe that God exists, rather than whether you think that, should it exist, a god could do literally anything, I think this is a non-sequitur.. But now you have told me that you agree with Stanford and I, then that question is settled.




For the last time it is not, that is your premise. The thread is about IF god can do anything. To which the answer is, still, that if a god is omnipotent it still can't do the logically impossible (which means making a mistake is fine). One can think of a God that can do that, yes; but that does not make it coherent.  Don't make me keep repeating the obvious.


The answer is that God can make any mistake that can be made. However, as per standard Christian thought that deity at least is not going to make any. A mistake too is often just a matter of perspective. I hope that helps.