Belichick’s record with Brady 244-66 without Brady 53-70

Jan 2, 2021 13:12:30 GMT damngumby said:

Are we saying that all the other coaches who have called Belichick the best evah are unable to isolate the Tom Brady factor in their evaluation of what Belichick has accomplished? If he was simply riding TB’s coat-tails all this time, you’d think they, of all people, would be able to recognize it.

Even the great Belichick needs some talent on the field to make a team go. This year, he has been working with virtually nothing.

Belichick has had plenty of talent in years where his record was terrible, including his first year in New England.  In fact I'd argue that 2000 Patriots team was loaded, and Belichick went 5-11.  They went to Super Bowl 46 with statistically the worst defense in the Super Bowl era. 

Hell, this year has been a disaster on all fronts, and they were 12-4 last year with Brady.  They were a top ten scoring offense last year, look it up.  Brady threw for more yards than his 2010 MVP season with these bums.  Yet the local press kept blaming the offense for losses, even the regular season finale where the Pats scored 24 points, including a go ahead TD with under four minutes to play.  Yet Belichick's defense couldn't stop a 4-11 team from marching down the field and scoring a TD to knock the Pats out of a first round bye.  Brady maximized the potential of the shit team Belichick gave him last year, this year BB has to lie in the bed he made alone.     

5 straight division titles from 2003-2007 with Brady; 2008 - No Brady, no playoffs

11 straight division titles from 2009 to 2019; 2020 - No Brady, no playoffs

Belichick has a sub .500 record in New England alone without Tom Brady, never mind the 36-44 disaster in Cleveland.

So to answer your initial question, it's clear the pundits, coaches and various football peers are able to tune out the Brady factor just as you are now.  Take comfort in knowing you aren't alone.