Belichick’s record with Brady 244-66 without Brady 53-70

Belichick’s record with Brady 244-66 without Brady 53-70 Jan 4, 2021 13:17:01 GMT

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Post by ReyKahuka on Jan 4, 2021 13:17:01 GMT

Jan 4, 2021 3:35:25 GMT damngumby said:

Jan 3, 2021 21:14:11 GMT ReyKahuka said:

Two words: Analytics, champ.

There’s nothing new about Analytics (one word), champ. Belichick has been using it for years. If you’re trying to suggest that your argument is the next evolutionary step in the evaluation of coaching talent, rendering previous expert views obsolete ... well ... excuse me while I bust a gut laughing.

I'm actually making an argument

That’s what’s so funny! You think comparing wins/loses with and without Tom Brady is a comprehensive evaluation of the coaches abilities. That’s the sort of simple argument you hear drunks at a bar make.

You have no argument

One does not need a counter argument in order to recognize a crock.

'Analytics, champ' is two words. Hope that helps. That aside, eight seasons worth of evidence without Tom Brady is more than enough. How many seasons do you need? Beyond that, I've mentioned poor coaching in seasons where the team actually had success. (i.e., bringing the worst statistical defense in the Super Bowl era to Super Bowl 46, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.)

Oh, and no I wasn't suggesting my analysis is the next step, simply pointing out that leaning on prevailing wisdom as an argument is hollow. Science works the same way. Everyone thinks they understand how something works, until they try looking at it a new way. New wisdom replaces the old. Thanks to analytics, sports works the same way. Whether you agree with the old school or the new, at some point all the 'experts' agreed on information that was flat out wrong.

You don't need a counter argument because you never had one. Nobody does. It doesn't exist. Throw out the Brady years and Belichick is a sub .500 coach. He's even missed the playoffs with Brady, and Brady's offense took them to the Super Bowl in a season where the defense literally did nothing. I'm happy to point out more examples of terrible coaching to you. But to keep this argument going, you'll have to do what no one else has done: provide an example of sustained success by Bill Belichick as a head coach without Tom Brady.

Eight seasons without Brady, six of them with a losing record, one playoff appearance. Like I said, he isn't the first or the last guy to be completely overrated. I just find it comical that nobody can provide an example of his great head coaching ability that doesn't involve Brady.

And by the way, insisting coaching isn't about wins and losses is one of the dumbest fucking arguments I've ever read. If a team had six of eight losing seasons and lost every game by a FG as time expired, I'm pretty sure that coach isn't going to the hall of fame.

Please come up with an actual argument next time, champ/ace/sport/cupcake. And learn how to count.