OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying

OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying Jan 4, 2021 21:06:04 GMT via mobile SciFive and lordarvidthexiii like this

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Post by movieliker on Jan 4, 2021 21:06:04 GMT

Jan 4, 2021 20:05:51 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

Jan 4, 2021 17:56:43 GMT movieliker said:

It's my opinion you are clouding the issue and trying to make it unnecessarily complicated to avoid just admitting you are wrong.

Some people believe in God. Some don't. There is no proof one way or another.

There may be a God. There may not.

You can believe anything you want. So can I.

You are a smart guy. You should have realized by now, your primitive and severely restricted ways of trying to prove --- or even suggest --- there is no God, are laughably unable.

No matter how much you wish to, you cannot prove that God doesn't exist.

I'm not clouding anything. I've said from the beginning most people don't understand how evidence works and you're clearly and example of that. What, pray tell, was I wrong about?

You keep repeating this "there is no proof either way" like a mantra. I've said repeatedly I'm not (never have been) talking about proof but evidence (and assumptions). That same statement applies to any imaginary being.

LMAO, my "primitive and restrictive ways of trying to prove there is no God?" You mean, "the fundamental model of how evidence works in order to prove anything at all?" THOSE "primitive and restrictive ways?" Please, do tell, what other advanced and non-restrictive ways would you endorse that would warrant belief in God? I'm sure the world of epistemological philosophy is on the edge of their seat waiting for you to detail this new, super-sophisticated method.

Here, I'm going to make this simple: Either there is evidence for God or there isn't. If you think there is evidence, post it and then we can discuss why that is/isn't evidence. If you agree with me that there's no evidence, then you need to argue why it's rational to assume God (or any being) exists without evidence. If you can do neither, you must then agree that belief in God is irrational and unwarranted.

So, we both agree, there is no proof.
In my opinion, there is no substantial evidence, one way or another.

The way I came to believe in God is;

1) I was raised Catholic.
2) I went through periods of being Agnostic and Atheist.
3) I decided to be a believer because I was happier and more successful as a believer.
4) I belong to no specific Christian denomination.

That is not proof or evidence. It's just a personal experience and decision.

I think that is rational. But I don't tell others what they should or shouldn't believe. That's a individual decision.