OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying

OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying Jan 4, 2021 21:28:48 GMT rachelcarson1953 likes this

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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 4, 2021 21:28:48 GMT

Jan 4, 2021 21:06:04 GMT movieliker said:

Jan 4, 2021 20:05:51 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

I'm not clouding anything. I've said from the beginning most people don't understand how evidence works and you're clearly and example of that. What, pray tell, was I wrong about?

You keep repeating this "there is no proof either way" like a mantra. I've said repeatedly I'm not (never have been) talking about proof but evidence (and assumptions). That same statement applies to any imaginary being.

LMAO, my "primitive and restrictive ways of trying to prove there is no God?" You mean, "the fundamental model of how evidence works in order to prove anything at all?" THOSE "primitive and restrictive ways?" Please, do tell, what other advanced and non-restrictive ways would you endorse that would warrant belief in God? I'm sure the world of epistemological philosophy is on the edge of their seat waiting for you to detail this new, super-sophisticated method.

Here, I'm going to make this simple: Either there is evidence for God or there isn't. If you think there is evidence, post it and then we can discuss why that is/isn't evidence. If you agree with me that there's no evidence, then you need to argue why it's rational to assume God (or any being) exists without evidence. If you can do neither, you must then agree that belief in God is irrational and unwarranted.

So, we both agree, there is no proof.
In my opinion, there is no substantial evidence, one way or another.

The way I came to believe in God is;

1) I was raised Catholic.
2) I went through periods of being Agnostic and Atheist.
3) I decided to be a believer because I was happier and more successful as a believer.
4) I belong to no specific Christian denomination.

That is not proof or evidence. It just a personal experience and decision.

I think that is rational. But I don't tell others what they should or shouldn't believe. That's a individual decision.

I've been agreeing there is no proof since about page 1. That's just been a strawman you've been endlessly skewering. Now you're agreeing there's no evidence either. Good, so we're back to my original question about why assume God exists at all.

As for your reasons:

1) Parents are just humans and as likely to be wrong as anyone else.
2) Ok...
3) Your happiness has no bearing on the truth of a hypothesis.
4) Ok...

Yes, it's a personal decision, which is fine, but it's clear you have no good reasons to believe, which makes the decision to believe irrational. If you want to believe because you think it "works" for you, then that's a pragmatic argument, and I don't have much to say against it; but if you're concerned with believing the truth, and not just what feels good, then you should care about having good evidence and/or reasons to believe, which you don't have.