OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying

OT 4 More Things Atheists Should Stop Saying Jan 5, 2021 13:31:18 GMT

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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 13:31:18 GMT

Jan 5, 2021 0:18:17 GMT movieliker said:

Jan 5, 2021 0:03:23 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

1) Not to be pedantic but I think you meant "semantics" rather than "pedantics." Whatever the case, you haven't shown anything I'm wrong about.

2) I'm not talking about "knowing the truth" of God's existence. It's like what I'm saying just flies right over your head.

3) Yes, and I've repeatedly said that then makes your belief that he does irrational if you care about truth.

4) I didn't say you being happier was a falsehood. What I said was you're suggesting it's rational to believe in falsehoods if they make you happier.

4) What falsehood do you think I believe in?

I don't think you know the definition of the word belief. People believe in things they do not know. They know things they have proof exist.

My "belief" in God is not the same thing as me "knowing" God exist.

The existence of God is not a falsehood. There is no proof God doesn't exist. So one cannot say with provable evidence that God doesn't exist.

4) Maybe "falsehood" is the wrong word, but you're essentially saying it's rational to believe something with no evidence or reason to think it's true other than that it makes you happy. Would you say any of these statements are rational:

"Believing I have a billion dollars in my bank account makes me happy. You can't prove I don't, so I'll choose to believe it."
"Believing I'm the reincarnated spirit of Jimi Hendrix makes me happy. You can't prove I'm not, so I'll choose to believe it."
"Believing in The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes me happy. You can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it."
"Believing in Santa Clause makes me happy. You can't prove he doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it."
"Believing we're all living in the matrix makes me happy. You can't prove we aren't, so I'll choose to believe it."
"Believing Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election makes me happy. You can't prove he didn't, so I'll choose to believe it."

God is no different than any of these things.

The only difference between belief and knowledge is the confidence level. Knowledge is something you might be 99.99% certain is true, while you can believe anything that reaches a subjective threshold that you think is true. So how confident are you that God exists? 50%? 66%? 75%? 90%? And what evidence/reasoning did you use to get to that level, keeping in mind that "it makes me feel good" is not evidence that God exists?