Post by ArArArchStanton on May 30, 2017 3:16:40 GMT

Also, you yourself created a thread in the LotR board about how you "HATE" The Hobbit movies, focusing on the negatives. So what exactly is the difference? You can't possibly tell me that Thor 2 is so much massively better than The Hobbit trilogy... And even if you can, that would be completely subjective, therefore any statement towards the validity of one opinion over another would be hypocritical at best...
Your argument seems to be to be predicated on the logic that movies are either undeniably good or undeniably bad with no middle ground.
btw I don't mean to antagonize you again. I just find this point of view fascinating and much desire to understand it.
Ok, well I'll start off by saying that my point of view isn't that things are undeniably good or undeniably bad. There are many levels of middle ground.
Instead of listing off negative features of either TDKR or the Hobbit and getting into this "it's all subjective" conversation, which doesn't help anybody understand anything, I'll bring it back to the point I made in the beginning, which is that there is nothing in TDW which is overtly ill crafted. Being able to improve something doesn't necessarily mean the current version is bad, so my objection to many of the comments to that film in particular is that to come out and say a better Thor film is possible, does not translate to TDW sucks. No, it's a fine film. And by the same token I hope Ragnorak blows it out of the water, but TDW will still be a fine film. In that regard you can see I very clearly have a middle ground and it's the "TDW sucks" crowd that falls into the undeniably good/bad mentality, which I like you, would be against. All I'm saying is that if a product is well made, stop nitpicking it. My only issue with TDKR is not any particular scene, but that the overall construction was clearly not as meticulously constructed as either of the previous two films, and I could go into detail on that, but it still falls into (just relax and enjoy it column) almost Godfather 3. It's more of a for fans only type of film, it's fine, but it's definitely not as polished as the first two. And that's TDKR.

