Falcon & WS vs. Snyder Cut

Falcon & WS vs. Snyder Cut Mar 21, 2021 7:17:11 GMT ThatGuy likes this

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Post by dazz on Mar 21, 2021 7:17:11 GMT

Mar 21, 2021 6:49:51 GMT thisguy4000 said:

Mar 21, 2021 6:41:50 GMT dazz said:

The CGI back then was said to be 90% complete, and they showed his cut of the original film to people, and I don't remember Martian Manhunter being included in that, and Snyder initially said to someone who asked him about Manhunter like 6 months after JL came out that he loved the idea they said of Lennix playing Manhunter, not yeah that was my idea all along, but that he loved the idea, why would he not say that was the plan when in like may or june of 2018 there were no plans for the Snyder cut whatsoever to be a reality?

It's just one of thos things, a lie, in which Snyder wants to stoke the flames of restore the Snyderverse by saying how all these things is what he was originally going to do, but after the fact when he can see all the negatives of the Whedon cut, and the want of the fans, so they think oh god yes Snyder was going to do this, thats so cool, where as in reality no it's ideas he's had years after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

Keep in mind back then Snyder left they were planning to do reshoots within like a month or 2, so the actor should have been signed up to do the reshoots by then even if it was a late in the game choice, these things take a long time to iron out, but he wasn't so it suggests this is another fib.

And again you say why the fibs? because it's PR spin, like I said Snyder want's people to believe the Snyder cut is his original vision, which is why he said he only filmed that one scene, but then that makes no sense again because they were filming for several weeks with Affleck, Fisher and Miller before the other 3 joined, and with the Whedon version he supposedly shot an entire new movie, or so they claim within 2 months, if Whedon can film an hour to an hour and a half of a movie in 2 months how does Snyder only film 1 scene in 1 month? and for more money than it cost for Whedon to shoot the entire movie?

See these are the details that make the story Snyder and even you are trying to feed us fell like bs, it does not add up or feel true at all.

Additional photography only lasted about a week or two, not one month, and they had to work around COVID. And again, what other scenes do you think were reshoots? They shouldn’t be difficult to spot.

And again I have fucking said, not outright reshoots but repurposing the heavy CGI shots, anything with Cybrog can easily be a reshoot given all we see of him is about 50% of his actual face for most of his screen time, and given how much the background on a lot of the movie looks cgi'ed unless on a set so who knows which ones of them are re done, this can be as simply as.

There is a lot you can do by recutting a movie, voice overs and a bunch of other shit, which again seeing as how the movie was 90% complete seems like a lot of shit that finishing that 10% and shooting one scene cost $70m, when the initial movie, extensive reshoots, 90% complete CGI and then an entire CGI redo over atleast 75% of the movie only bumped the initial $275m budget up to $300m, Heard, Leto, Affleck, Miller, Fisher, Manganiello are not going to be getting like $40m between the 6 of them for 2 weeks of shooting, which is also a BS number, Miller, Fisher and Affleck were filming for 2 weeks then Heard and them joined up after that, so if it took them 2 weeks to film the stuff without the others it would have taken just as long to film the other stuff with them.

And I like how you cannot argue any point so you keep just going "eh what was a reshoot then" despite me repeatedly telling you what I think, did they reshoot huge sets pieces with all the main actors? no, do they need to in order to alter and add little things? no they don't, but how many scenes are so CGI heavy they could easily change that shit without it being obvious? quite a fucking bit, which is not to even take into account all the alternative takes on scenes that could/would have been filmed given the initial films extensive rewrites, Zack could have spent a week shooting one scene and had 5 entire different takes on it based on them rewriting the scene day by day.

What makes sense to me is Zack shot and cut his original Snyder cut, showed it to people and they shit on it, then Whedon did his and people shit on that too, so Snyder has had the last 3 years to think about what he fucked up, what Whedon fucked up, what the fans said they wanted, and figured out how to come up with the best version he can, which explains why it took atleast 8 months to finish work on a film 90% completed and was initially only 6 months away from release, so needed to be done in less time than that, scenes he initially left on the editing room floor now needed to get the full post production treatment.

Which btw is all fine, who cares if he rethought things in order to make a better movie people would like compared to the one that didn't test well? I don't, I just dislike the intentional misleading of people, which he has done and lots of people are buying into, which just so happens be self serving as was the new scene he added as it's all to trigger fans into getting up in arms for a future movie he knew he had not shot of originally, and I dislike the deception, I mean Hollywood lies all the time, but you know they normally aren't so blatant or bad at it, if you are going to lie to me do so in a way that's remotely plausible is all I ask.