Is consciousness just an illusion?

Is consciousness just an illusion? May 30, 2017 22:25:47 GMT

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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 30, 2017 22:25:47 GMT

May 30, 2017 19:14:46 GMT @rasal said:

May 29, 2017 21:55:38 GMT Toasted Cheese said:

Perhaps you don't know what to say then, because your concept\notion of God and what God or The Godforce represents is different to mine. You are striving to meet what you only "perceive" as God's standards of perfection. It is all perfect as it is, and I would say you are just being rigid and coming from a religious conceptualized notion of what you feel God represents. That rigidity is also coming from a control space, which is also an ego space.

As a Christian I do not fully understand perfection that died on a cross. I am grateful for it because I believe that through this act God's perfection overcame the worlds imperfection. You are right to question how people set their measure of what constitutes perfection. Too easy for ego to step in and say this is perfect that isn't. Only grace can tell us what is perfect. How could a person 2000 years or so ago travelling through Jerusalem and seeing a stranger named Jesus dying on a cross have known he was witnessing the perfect Divine unless God's grace made it known? I believe perfection is real but I believe, as I think most religions teach, that only God really knows what perfection is because only God is truly perfect. You said ' all is perfect as it is'. I disagree strongly! I am not perfect and I am part of the whole therefore all is not perfect. Julian of Norwich, a Christian mystic , said 'all will be well' not 'all is well' quite simply because all isn't well or perfect.. yet. : )

I am not perfect either, but what can be perfect in a world where nothing is permanent? All is perfectly imperfect and we are here to do the work that leads to spiritual evolvement\enlightenment and I also believe it is not a once around. We have to earn our stripes. You are Christian and believe in Christ being the savior of mankind. I believe that Christ existed, but he has been glorified by the church and there was an agenda behind this, and that is one of controlling the masses to keep them behaving and living in fear. Christ\Jesus was a highly enlightened being, like the Buddha, and they help show people about the purpose of their lives and what can be accomplished, as in self-realization which leads to transcendence.

As mentioned previously, it is all one and whole and complete and Christ knew this. His resurrection, was his own transcendence and about what is attainable. His purpose was not to die for anyone's sins. We are also not the original sin. How about seeing yourself as the original blessing? That way, it might help you along your journey with what you perceive as perfect or imperfect.