"I don't like Sand" demystified

"I don't like Sand" demystified May 31, 2017 12:19:34 GMT via mobile coldenhaulfield and Tristan's Journal like this

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Post by Waxer-n-boil on May 31, 2017 12:19:34 GMT

May 30, 2017 22:38:56 GMT sostie said:

May 30, 2017 19:57:35 GMT Jedan Archer said:

Lucas is one of the few ideas-men and storytellers in an age of blockbuster films designed by corporate committee. Lucas in known for his maniacal use of story-immanent references and layering.

He is subtle enough to let dead Qui Gon call out for Anakin during the massacre, he carefully laid out Anakin's already formed attachments when he joined the Jedi in Ep1, and then shows his inability to let go of them regarding his mother, and him finally projecting them on Padme when he "fails" his mother. The same conflict we see in Ep 2 we then see in Ep III on a much grander and deadlier scale.

In this context I think it would be naive to believe Anakin was really just talking about his literal dislike of sand, and not figuratively about his lowly background and character conflicts. Accordingly, the great musical theme accompanying them is called star-crossed-lovers.

I thinks Lucas deserves more credit as a storyteller than he is given, one just needs the mind for it.

I'm sorry, but if by ideas man you mean in respect of the story etc (as opposed to the technology that got it there) I don't see it myself. His films are full of scenes and ideas from other films and established myths. At times he does no more than let's do a bar scene...with aliens and robots, let's do gladiatorial scene...with aliens and robots, lets do a chariot race...with aliens and robots etc etc.

And if there is all this well thought out subtext and layering to his dialogue and plot then he has been far from successful seeing how so many consider the films badly written. If you have the "mind for it" you can project a deeper level of subtext and layering to almost any film than was intended. I've read books doing the same for The Thing, worked on a website that dedicated pages and pages of it to the Die Hard, Alien and Predator franchises (all starting out as a joke and ending up getting really deep).

- That's an oversimplification based on several scenes superimposed over the summary of 6 films. Can't agree.

- The dialogue has always been cheesy and somewhat cumbersome. Good or bad it's a trademark to this fictional galaxy "far, far away and a long time ago..."

- Some movies make a better argument for it than others. Some people are determined to see everything in SW at face value to reinforce their argument that it's badly written wherever they don't like these movies. I guess when the cave scene happened with Luke in TESB, you thought that the beheaded Vader whose mask exploded to show Luke's face meant that Luke had a twin brother who was another Vader. He was going to kill his twin brother Vader in the future, and there were actually 2 Darth Vaders.