Post by ArArArchStanton on May 31, 2017 19:44:30 GMT
Is there something that is actually bad in the DCEU?
Well first of all, I'm trying to help you understand better, but I'm also willing to, which is why I asked for examples of something ill conceived or poorly executed in the MCU.
And yes, Martha and Tornadocide are prime examples of the writer trying to get to a conclusion without regard to the means of getting there. Tornadocide for instance very transparently is the writer saying to themselves, "Ok I want Johnathan to die willingly in a sacrificial act, while stressing the point that Clark's powers can't be used to help in the interest of secrecy. So I'm going to use a tornado. Now why would Johnathan and Clark both be near the tornado, but only Johnathan is in danger. Oh I got it, the dog won't get out of the car so Johnathan will have to go back for him. But I don't want to kill the dog, so he'll just runaway and won't matter any more to the scene because all I needed was an excuse to get Johnathan back to the car. Oh and Clark didn't go because I needed Johnathan to die, but it would have made more sense given that he has no chance of dying in the tornado, and he wouldn't have gotten stuck and there would be no reason to think he'd reveal his powers, but Johnathan goes anyway. So now I need an excuse for the Tornado to suddenly be close enough to kill Johnathan, but still make it believable that it was far enough away for him to decide to go back for the plot convenience dog in the first place. So I'll have to have a plot convenience Johnathan gets stuck. And there we have it. Clark couldn't have gone for the dog in the first place, but now he can't come because it might reveal his powers, which might be bad even though we don't know that, and Johnathan won't even try to run away. And scene." It's a string of plot conveniences that clearly weren't very well planned. It's just the first thing whoever wrote that thought of.
How about a clear example of Lois falling away from the black hole with all of the other cars flying up past her. There is no way to make that remotely make sense, especially when Superman has to fly with all his might to keep her from being sucked in right after he catches her. It's a bad scene.
Jimmy Olson dying without even being named so there is zero emotional impact, and basically for no reason.
Martha doesn't even make sense from the character's point of view. Either of them. It's very much like Tornadocide where it stands out as a knee jerk reaction scene that seemed cool when the writer first thought of it but wasn't very well planned.
So all of these things I'm talking about the writing and planning of a scene. And there are no scenes like these in the MCU. Thor learning a lesson in a few days is a conscious decision for the development of all of the characters so that they don't have to go through this "we've known each other for months" metamorphosis. It doesn't take away from the events he experienced to change his outlook. It just keeps everything fresh from the perspective of all of the characters involved.
Lex