Post by PreachCaleb on May 31, 2017 20:00:06 GMT
Well first of all, I'm trying to help you understand better, but I'm also willing to, which is why I asked for examples of something ill conceived or poorly executed in the MCU.
And yes, Martha and Tornadocide are prime examples of the writer trying to get to a conclusion without regard to the means of getting there. Tornadocide for instance very transparently is the writer saying to themselves, "Ok I want Johnathan to die willingly in a sacrificial act, while stressing the point that Clark's powers can't be used to help in the interest of secrecy. So I'm going to use a tornado. Now why would Johnathan and Clark both be near the tornado, but only Johnathan is in danger. Oh I got it, the dog won't get out of the car so Johnathan will have to go back for him. But I don't want to kill the dog, so he'll just runaway and won't matter any more to the scene because all I needed was an excuse to get Johnathan back to the car. Oh and Clark didn't go because I needed Johnathan to die, but it would have made more sense given that he has no chance of dying in the tornado, and he wouldn't have gotten stuck and there would be no reason to think he'd reveal his powers, but Johnathan goes anyway. So now I need an excuse for the Tornado to suddenly be close enough to kill Johnathan, but still make it believable that it was far enough away for him to decide to go back for the plot convenience dog in the first place. So I'll have to have a plot convenience Johnathan gets stuck. And there we have it. Clark couldn't have gone for the dog in the first place, but now he can't come because it might reveal his powers, which might be bad even though we don't know that, and Johnathan won't even try to run away. And scene." It's a string of plot conveniences that clearly weren't very well planned. It's just the first thing whoever wrote that thought of.
How about a clear example of Lois falling away from the black hole with all of the other cars flying up past her. There is no way to make that remotely make sense, especially when Superman has to fly with all his might to keep her from being sucked in right after he catches her. It's a bad scene.
Jimmy Olson dying without even being named so there is zero emotional impact, and basically for no reason.
Martha doesn't even make sense from the character's point of view. Either of them. It's very much like Tornadocide where it stands out as a knee jerk reaction scene that seemed cool when the writer first thought of it but wasn't very well planned.
So all of these things I'm talking about the writing and planning of a scene
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Maybe it is you who is not open to even attempting to look at these as well done elements of the film.
And who calls their mom by their first name to a stranger?
It's not a blind eye. They just weren't done well. I can see what Snyder was going for, but like with some of Whedon's short comings (The Black Widow is a monster scene), it lacked in the execution. Far too contrived for its own good.