"I don't like Sand" demystified

"I don't like Sand" demystified Jun 3, 2017 1:43:34 GMT Waxer-n-boil likes this

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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 3, 2017 1:43:34 GMT

Jun 3, 2017 1:39:52 GMT Waxer-n-boil said:

Jun 2, 2017 21:45:59 GMT yogabagaba said:

Oh my god, it's almost like the idea of Han and Leia eventually breaking up, especially if there was some family tragedy involved, between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens totally makes sense given their characters! And yeah, it's a romance that's been done plenty of times, the girl falling for the bad boy after they spend a good amount of time bickering. But the thing is, it works. Heck, it's something most humans can understand from an early age, given you often see little boys teasing girls that they like.

Yes, the "romance" in TFA comes off as rather one-sided on Finn's part. Rey seems to mostly view him as a friend. This appears to be reinforced by her giving him a peck on the forehead before she heads off to find Luke. But yeah, I do find it better than the prequels. Largely because Boyega and Ridley have actual charisma and chemistry with each other, even if the result is a one-sided crush on Finn's part.[/b{

And, um, "mystery box romance nonsense of Finn and Poe?" Dude, the idea of that relationship being romantic is nothing but the result of people reading too much into things. Will the filmmakers go that way in the next two films? Perhaps, but as of right now, it's not a romance, it's a bromance. And frankly, who cares what Finn's "preference" is? For the most part, it seems that fans just enjoy speculating for the fun of it, or in some cases because they themselves may be gay/queer/etc. and would appreciate some representation in a franchise they enjoy. Why are you so obsessed over Finn's potential sexuality, and seem to be presenting it as a negative?

Also, I have to question if you understand what the "mystery box" is if you think Finn and Poe's relationship or Finn's attraction to Rey qualify.

We also know so little about Rose that speculation at this point is pretty pointless.

~ Yeah, too bad that they mostly used the breakup plot as an excuse to retrofit Han and Leia's characters into being exactly the same characters in development and characterization that they were from midway ANH to midway TESB. (Han hasn't learned anything in 30 years of smuggling. Still hatching half-baked con schemes that make powerful enemies and almost get him killed and don't make profits! Really?!? Leia is in exactly the same role even though it doesn't make since given her high profile as one the leading senators. During the movie Hux speaks about not being fooled as to who the Resistance is and their connection to the new Republic... No 💩!!! Didn't Leia overthrow the Empire doing the same thing 30 years ago?? Isn't it the same thing only they changed their name from the Rebellion to the Resistance?? What kind of idiot couldn't figure that out?... Oh I know, preteens who watch the Disney channel all day long).

~ Well it does work. I can't argue that.

~ Rey and Finn have chemistry and charisma? First off it's still not a romance. Secondly, it's bad chemistry and charisma! (I already talked about some of the dialogue and their character profiles). It's that same cartoonish and horrible stuff you see from Hannah Montana and a dozen shows since that followed the same character archetypes with different "skins". It might be good Disney, but it's bad Star Wars.

~ It probably is people reading too much into it with Finn and Poe. But that's exactly part of the point. Actors and TPTB have fueled the flames at conventions knowing full well what fans perceptions and expectations are. But they also led the audience on with vaguery on Rey/Finn. And they seem to be doing the same at conventions with Finn/Rose. I can quote statements if necessary.

~ If all you got was that I'm obsessed about Finn's sexual preference then you missed the point. The point is that it's all bad onscreen romance if none of this leads to any actual development.

And do you know what "mystery box" is? It's mystery that never leads to any genuine development, revelation, or actual solvency. It's the carrot dangled in front of the horse that he never gets to eat... and he chases it until he drops dead. So yeah, at this point the romance does fit into mystery box, along with most plot oriented things in TFA.

Fucking hell, I wish I'd written this. Probably the most astute single sentence written about Star Wars by anyone anywhere since 2012. Seriously. Damn fine, sir.