Richard Donner dies at 91

Richard Donner dies at 91 Jul 6, 2021 21:35:46 GMT

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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 6, 2021 21:35:46 GMT

Jul 6, 2021 21:22:32 GMT Vits said:

Jul 6, 2021 19:16:19 GMT Downey said:

I find the worship regarding his death equally revolting especially with the refusal to recast his character.

No, I was referring to waiting to have that conversation after the grief period.

Jul 6, 2021 19:49:11 GMT lowtacks86 said:

we should base our morality/behavior/beliefs on sound philosophical reasoning and imperical evidence, not just because a bunch of people hold a belief (which is fallacious) whether it be manners, morality, or accepting scientific facts. Do you agree or disagree?

What makes you think there's no philosophical reasoning behind what I've been saying? The evidence is the fact that most people follow those kinds of rules already. Morality is a form of belief, so you contradicted yourself there.

Jul 6, 2021 19:49:11 GMT lowtacks86 said:

No, you initially made an appeal to popularity (Planet Earth), and then I pressed you on it, and then you admitted it was really your own personal standards. Which is it? Should I wait 24 hours because of societal standards (which is fallacious anyways) or because of your own moral framework?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you can't comprehend when you read my posts, considering all the grammatical errors you make. I never said "The general rule is 24 hours." I said that was my view. In none of the previous posts did I specify any of that.

Jul 6, 2021 19:49:11 GMT lowtacks86 said:

I doubt any of his close friends or relatives post on this forum.

How can you be sure of that? Also, fans who feel an attachment to him might react the same way.

Jul 6, 2021 19:49:11 GMT lowtacks86 said:

And why 24 hours? How did you come to that exact figure?

Ummm... Because that means an entire day has passed.

Jul 6, 2021 19:49:11 GMT lowtacks86 said:

And why is your number anymore valid then someone that would argue 48, or 72?

What do you mean? I never said that those who prefer a longer time span are wrong. I clarified that the number I chose was personal.

What makes you think there's no philosophical reasoning behind what I've been saying?

Because you haven't given any actual philosophical reasoning. I pressed you several times and you still haven't given any.

"The evidence is the fact that most people follow those kinds of rules already."

That's not "evidence" that's just an appeal to popularity fallacy. I've already addressed this. Do you think simply basing your morality on societal standards is a good argument? You realize society often has had very reprehensbile views, right?

"Morality is a form of belief, so you contradicted yourself there."

Uh no, I never said "morality isn't a belief", you're strawmanning me, I said we should base our morality/beliefs on sound philosophical reasoning and empirical evidence. You haven't given either one. Saying "a bunch of people hold this view" isn't "empirical evidence" if that's the argument you're gonna make

"I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you can't comprehend when you read my posts, considering all the grammatical errors you make."

Resorting to petty insults already? Getting desperate I see.

"I never said "The general rule is 24 hours."

I asked you according to who, and you said "the earth" which basically just means societal standards, or a "general rule". So yeah that's not an unfair interpretation of what you said.

"How can you be sure of that?"

Considering this is a pretty obscure board that you have to get invited to find out about? I'm gonna take a wild guess and say yeah, none of his friends/relatives are on here.

"Ummm... Because that means an entire day has passed."

And? Do people just magically stop caring about the deceased after a day? Again this is just a completely arbitrary standard that you're not really basing on any sound philosophical reasoning.

"What do you mean? I never said that those who prefer a longer time span are wrong. I clarified that the number I chose was personal."

What I asked it is why do you feel your number is anymore valid than someone elses? You say 24? Why not 48, 72, 96, or none at all? You're still not presenting an actual argument.

I'm gonna ask you again, what philosophical argument can you actually make for your "24 rule"? And don't respond back with "because it's personal'" or because "societal standards". Those aren't arguments.