Post by Utpe on Feb 25, 2017 21:41:08 GMT
My vote will always go to that turd of a movie Terminator Salvation.
I had a long-winded post about this on the Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines IMDb board, but now I'm going to have to recall what I had said last year.
I believe everybody gives the third installment too much flack. Yes, the jokes were ridiculously corny, but at least they followed the same format as the previous films. The idea of having a female Terminator was awesome. Arnold was in his prime. Nick Stahl was...meh. They did, however, fudge up John's age, but I let that one slide.
Sadly, this would be the last Terminator film that would be somewhat passable. It was all downhill from there.
Salvation shouldn't even be considered a Terminator movie. First, there's no Arnold. He makes the franchise what it is. Christian Bale was horribly miscast as John Connor. His rant on the set didn't help at the time. Even though Linda Hamilton had a voice credit in the movie, it didn't help. The face on the T-800 was hilariously bad. A Terminator having a human heart was absurd. This made Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles look like a cinematic masterpiece, and that was only a T.V. show.
Genisys was more like a science fiction movie with action scenes. It was mediocre at best, but at least Arnold reprises his role.
My goodness, whose bright idea was it to have Emilia Clarke play Sarah Connor? She looks like a kid! I suppose one could argue that this Sarah is from a different timeline, and the events that took place in the sequel never happened, but it still doesn't change my opinion of her.
We know the real reason behind casting her was to drawn in the Game of Thrones fan base. As such, this didn't help. It still barely broke-even in theaters.
Jai Courtney ruins everything that he's in. A Good Day to Die Hard was barely watchable because of him.
Then, you have the T-3000. John Connor a nano robot? What kinda drugs were the writers on? He's suppose to be the hero, not the villain. I can't really blame Jason Clarke for that one. He tried his best.
Remember when Terminators were hard to kill? Well, this movie throws that concept right out of the window. Apparently, all you have to do is blow their head off. Gee, the original film would have been over after a short period of time.
Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!
Did they forget about that little tidbit of information? Because it's the most crucial part of the franchise. It's like they never even bothered watching the first two installments.
I don't know what to say about the effects. They were a heck of a lot better in the second and third installments. It's like they went in reverse for the most part. Even the original made in 1984 was more believable. I let that go because the technology just wasn't there at the time, and Cameron had a limited budget. It was suppose to be a cheesy B-movie, but it turned into a cult icon after Judgement Day.
The jail scene? Holy Moses. If you think the jokes in Rise of the Machines were horrendous, think again.
They misused J.K. Simmons. They completely threw his character (and the actor) under the bus.
I can't believe they were suppose to connect this movie to some universe of superheros. That's not what The Terminator is about.
Skynet as an app? Ugh.
And, the ending. Damn, to put the cherry on top of the crap sundae, they made Arnold's Terminator into some hybrid T-800/T-1000.
I will give them this and this alone: The recreation of the 1984 scene was pretty damn impressive. You can tell that they put a lot of time and effort into it. For that, I give them praise.
There were suppose to be two more sequels. I guess we'll never really know if Skynet survived (I think it did). Thank goodness that idea was scrapped. The rights revert back to James Cameron in 2019 anyhow.
I would conclude that Genisys and Salvation were both turds, but my vote still goes to the latter.
Please, just let the franchise R.I.P. I don't have faith in it anymore. I also don't even want Cameron to bother at this point. Arnold is just too old.
I had a long-winded post about this on the Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines IMDb board, but now I'm going to have to recall what I had said last year.
I believe everybody gives the third installment too much flack. Yes, the jokes were ridiculously corny, but at least they followed the same format as the previous films. The idea of having a female Terminator was awesome. Arnold was in his prime. Nick Stahl was...meh. They did, however, fudge up John's age, but I let that one slide.
Sadly, this would be the last Terminator film that would be somewhat passable. It was all downhill from there.
Salvation shouldn't even be considered a Terminator movie. First, there's no Arnold. He makes the franchise what it is. Christian Bale was horribly miscast as John Connor. His rant on the set didn't help at the time. Even though Linda Hamilton had a voice credit in the movie, it didn't help. The face on the T-800 was hilariously bad. A Terminator having a human heart was absurd. This made Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles look like a cinematic masterpiece, and that was only a T.V. show.
Genisys was more like a science fiction movie with action scenes. It was mediocre at best, but at least Arnold reprises his role.
My goodness, whose bright idea was it to have Emilia Clarke play Sarah Connor? She looks like a kid! I suppose one could argue that this Sarah is from a different timeline, and the events that took place in the sequel never happened, but it still doesn't change my opinion of her.
We know the real reason behind casting her was to drawn in the Game of Thrones fan base. As such, this didn't help. It still barely broke-even in theaters.
Jai Courtney ruins everything that he's in. A Good Day to Die Hard was barely watchable because of him.
Then, you have the T-3000. John Connor a nano robot? What kinda drugs were the writers on? He's suppose to be the hero, not the villain. I can't really blame Jason Clarke for that one. He tried his best.
Remember when Terminators were hard to kill? Well, this movie throws that concept right out of the window. Apparently, all you have to do is blow their head off. Gee, the original film would have been over after a short period of time.
Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!
Did they forget about that little tidbit of information? Because it's the most crucial part of the franchise. It's like they never even bothered watching the first two installments.
I don't know what to say about the effects. They were a heck of a lot better in the second and third installments. It's like they went in reverse for the most part. Even the original made in 1984 was more believable. I let that go because the technology just wasn't there at the time, and Cameron had a limited budget. It was suppose to be a cheesy B-movie, but it turned into a cult icon after Judgement Day.
The jail scene? Holy Moses. If you think the jokes in Rise of the Machines were horrendous, think again.
They misused J.K. Simmons. They completely threw his character (and the actor) under the bus.
I can't believe they were suppose to connect this movie to some universe of superheros. That's not what The Terminator is about.
Skynet as an app? Ugh.
And, the ending. Damn, to put the cherry on top of the crap sundae, they made Arnold's Terminator into some hybrid T-800/T-1000.
I will give them this and this alone: The recreation of the 1984 scene was pretty damn impressive. You can tell that they put a lot of time and effort into it. For that, I give them praise.
There were suppose to be two more sequels. I guess we'll never really know if Skynet survived (I think it did). Thank goodness that idea was scrapped. The rights revert back to James Cameron in 2019 anyhow.
I would conclude that Genisys and Salvation were both turds, but my vote still goes to the latter.
Please, just let the franchise R.I.P. I don't have faith in it anymore. I also don't even want Cameron to bother at this point. Arnold is just too old.