Why does God allow bad things and suffering?

Why does God allow bad things and suffering? Jun 15, 2017 22:44:58 GMT

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Post by cupcakes on Jun 15, 2017 22:44:58 GMT

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@miccee said: So why mis-quote it in your previous post?

I can only also credit this to you being insane.

There is no misquote. Just more of your black is white and call it purple sprinkled with puerile dumpster dives.

Because nobody ever being able to change their mind about anything is not a requirement of determinism. I won't ever be able to change outcomes to anything other than what they are determined to be. But I am part of that chain of causality, and the outcome will be in some way different due to my existence than it would have been had I not existed.

See the first response. Positively irrational.

I think that it's fairly well accepted that macroscopic objects behave deterministically, and that would include human brains. But don't forget that anything other than strictly 'compatibilist' free will would be equally disallowed by indeterminism. Randomness is not a requirement for free will, it proves that free will does not exist. Determinism also proves that free will does not exist. There is no room for it on either side of the spectrum.

Which means little. And don't forget that anything other than reality will be equally disallowed by reality. "Determinism" neither has the significance that you tendentiously apply to it, nor has it been established.

Whether things behave sensibly or in a deranged fashion, it is impossible to shoe-horn in 'libertarian' free will. Either way, our behaviour can only ever be directed by processes outside of our conscious control. That makes us. So we have no more free will than a computer, regardless of what you believe about quantum mechanics.

They don't, and they aren't required to. We have meaningful free will and not your demand for deranged incoherencies, so it is a non-issue.

Except there is evidence that a machine can predict our choices before we know how we're going to choose.

There are highly contested conclusions based upon positively manically contested assumptions that in no way establish even when we make the decision, much less your ludicrously fanciful "predict our choices before we know how we're going to choose".

And if society wants the fairest possible state of affairs, that would mean no humans and no society.