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Post by yogabagaba on Jul 18, 2017 0:23:06 GMT
When did the idea that people shouldn't be discrimintated against based on their ethnicity, sexuality, social class, etc. become leftist politics? To me, that's just basic human decency. Actually, as far as U.S. politics go, I'd consider it to be right-wing politics. I can't speak for the civil rights movement in the U.K., but in the United States, it was conservative Republicans who spent a century pushing for things like equal voting rights both genders and the civil rights act of 1964. Left-wing Democrats under Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt (and make no mistake, they were indeed LEFT-wing and promoted big government programs like the "New Deal" as the solution to everything) were vehemently against it, and said so at the time. I agree that idea that you cannot discriminate against someone on the basis of their gender or skin color should be a non-partisan issue that is considered basic human decency, but that doesn't change the fact that the people fighting against ending male-only voting and ending forced segregation of the races were almost uniformly liberal Democrats. You can look at the voting record on those issues, and the people opposing civil rights were about 90% Democrats. More specifically, American left-wing politics opposes equal rights and a color blind society in favor of SPECIAL rights for whatever group they are pandering to for votes at that given time in history (rural white agrarian society in the 1850s, non-heterosexual relationships during the 21st century, etc.) and us vs. them identity politics (which results in a character being introduced and defined primarily by their sexual orientation within 30 seconds of appearing on screen in a television show). The result is Doctor Who took a hard-turn towards American-style leftist politics of 2017 this year. If Doctor Who were made by left-wing writers in 1953, a show of that era might depict a working class WASP being the victim of assault by "dangerous negros" who had been armed by gun-rights groups. I'm sorry it offends you that I'm calling out how awful Moffat's 21st century liberalism would look in 1960s Doctor Who and how it would ruin classic episodes if it took the current show's approach. Must suck for you to realize the program once cared about interesting characters and compelling stories instead of preachy politics and relationship melodrama. Being butthurt by the truth won't stop it from being the truth. Yeah, kid, acting like Republicans NOW are against the idea of discriminating against people based on ethnicity, sexuality, religion, etc. because of what the party ONCE supported is delusional, and vice versa for the Deomcrats. The fact is that ever since the Democrats began supporting the civil rights movement in the 60s, the paradigm has shifted. And the Democrats knew they'd lose votes, especially in the southern US, as a result of that. Meanwhile the GOP stepped in to fill the void, gladly welcoming voters who were all about racism, sexism, etc.. The result is what you see today. And thnks for proving my point that it was the Democrats people who would today be called liberal-Democrats that supported ending men-only or white-only voting. And your notion of "color-blind" is so wrong because it ignore the history that preceded it. And your notion that offering the LGBTQ community equal protections offered to heterosexuals under the law is some how pandering? Well, that tells us a lot about you. So please, stop hiding behind what the GOP once did as if that justifies what they do now with the Orange Troll at their forefront. It only exposes you as either a bigot, or someone who doesn't think discrimination is a negative. There's no doubt as to which party and it's zealot-like supporters are the regressive ones, the people who, whether it's 50 years or a thousand years from now (assuming humanity is still around) are going to be seen as the ones denying decency. As for what you wrote up re: how Moffet would write Zoe? It's a farce. An exagerration made purely for the sake of a straw=man argument. Based on what we saw of Bill in series 10 (oh the horrrors! A gay black woman! I'm guessing that alone caused you to wake up in a cold sweat!) your piece is a joke, nothing more. And it deserves to be treated as such. A working class WASP being assaulted be negroes? No, today's equivalent to suit you would be the Doctor that an alien species that didn't believe in Time Lord values deserved to be wiped out in its entirity. |
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