FAITH... WITH REASON

FAITH... WITH REASON Mar 1, 2017 22:51:36 GMT

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Post by Vegas on Mar 1, 2017 22:51:36 GMT

Mar 1, 2017 22:26:53 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

Faith requires certainty as per your own definition

No it doesn't. "Certainty" is a word that you are inserting into this conversation.

in response to people saying your dictionary-approved definition does not fit the examples given turn around and claim you're not going to argue about what the definition claims

I'm not denying the use of the word "complete"... I'm just not getting into what nth degree of confidence one must have for it to be "complete"... If it's enough to apply it in the real world... that's complete enough for me.

When you do the "free fall backwards" at a team-building exercise...
Do you have a doubt that your team might not catch you? Of course... Is it a "certainty" that they will catch you?.. No.

But, you have a faith in them.... complete enough to actually fall back.

Do you really convince yourself that such an accident isn't a possibility?

No... I do not have faith that I am somehow accident proof.... There's no evidence for it.

what I said about the bridge... pretty much destroys the notion that it requires faith to act on something.

Not really. What lies beyond the bridge plays little into how trustworthy you deem the bridge... How much you are willing to risk IN SPITE of your faith in the bridge is what you are talking about.

Now, where exactly is my "faith" in making this bet even though I acknowledge I'm most likely to lose the bet?

Off hand.. I'd say that you don't really have any... Or you just relying on blind dumb luck....
You do know that I'm not saying blind faith based on nothing doesn't exist, right?

That kind of faith exists, too.