The endless quest for higher def video
Aug 12, 2017 3:34:54 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 12, 2017 3:34:54 GMT
i voted for... "It's getting to be ridiculous". either way, eventually i think there has to be a limit to where it won't really be all that noticeable outside of general lighting/color tweaks which i think probably comes down a personal preference after a point (unless they can somehow make TV (or other viewing device) mimic how we see reality/the world around us) and i feel we are pretty much there or close to it already. but with that said...
while i think there will always be some advancement in image quality for the foreseeable future (but more from general TV tech advancement (maybe color/lighting tweaks etc(?)) more than higher resolutions) i think all of the big leaps are mostly over at this point, at least what we can tell for the foreseeable future. because i just can't see them making another leap forward like they did with SD to HD for the foreseeable future. like even a quality 50" TV from say 2005 or so (which back then would have been arm and a leg, pretty much) would still be solid enough today and that's 12 years ago, which is a lot of time in tech terms. sure, i am sure there has been some improvements in TV tech etc since then but nothing i would say is a must have sorta thing, especially if costs are not reasonable (i.e. around $1k or less). someone i knew had a 50" Samsung 1080p TV i think around 2005 and i remember being pretty impressed by it when he played some movies on bluray. but it should have impressed me because i think he said he paid $3500 for it (i am pretty sure it was at least $2500).
even my cousin said (who i trust on these things)... while he can see a difference from HD to 4k he said it was not much (like he said there was a larger difference between SD to HD than from HD to 4k(which is what i figured even before he said that to me not all that long ago)) and if it had a decent $ premium for it, it would not be worth it. i think he said he had Netflix with the 4k stuff. he also said he's got a 65" TV which also might be a factor there as i imagine smaller TV's (which i would guesstimate most people probably don't have TV larger than 50inch or so) will be harder to notice(?).
with all of that said... ill be happy with typical HD for the foreseeable future as i don't really see a need to upgrade my current 43" LG 1080p TV (mfg date Jan 2016) (if i do, it would be mostly for a size increase (like if i do upgrade ill have to get at least a 50"+, if not 60" or so for me to even consider it) as i got my PC connected to that through it's HDMI port and play my movies in SD/HD that way. that was a BIG leap over my previous 25" old style TV from the early 2000's. i won't get that kind of leap from my current setup for quite some time i suspect as even with those TV's that costs thousands of $$$ right now won't be anything significant over my current TV even though i would expect to notice some difference. but lately (probably for years now) you don't really need to spend more than about $1k on a TV (especially if your not getting some monster sized TV) as much over that the prices basically shoot up for little gains pretty much (these are just ball park estimates but i am sure my estimates here are close enough). hell, even with typical HD scene released movies they look basically the same on my 43" TV with 720p or 1080p (which is why i basically stick to 720p for hard drive space savings) but i can notice a little difference when viewing the same movie on an actual bluray disc, but even then it's not all that much. if i had to speculate i would guess that's probably something in the neighborhood of bluray to 4k, like a little bit (and noticeable) but nothing big enough to make me say, 'i have to have this', especially for the vast majority of movies.
hell, another thing... strictly looking at the size of a TV you will have limits here to simply because of space in a persons house will limit how far one can go as in this regard i can't really see TV's going much larger than what we currently have as i have seen 60" TV's and those are more than good enough for me and i would assume most people. so 'maybe' 80" or so is probably the limit, give or take, unless your house is really big?.
just some thoughts
sdrew13163
but it's not all that much right?
like there is more of a difference between SD to HD than bluray to 4k, right?
like i guess my point is... 4k is more expendable(like if you can get it, fine. if not, it's not a big deal) vs basic HD. (hell, in my personal opinion... unless a movie is more visual/atmosphere oriented i can even get by with SD no problem)
but given you said, "After that, I'm not sure anything above 4K will even be noticeable." ; i have a feeling you basically agree with me (or at least mostly).
while i think there will always be some advancement in image quality for the foreseeable future (but more from general TV tech advancement (maybe color/lighting tweaks etc(?)) more than higher resolutions) i think all of the big leaps are mostly over at this point, at least what we can tell for the foreseeable future. because i just can't see them making another leap forward like they did with SD to HD for the foreseeable future. like even a quality 50" TV from say 2005 or so (which back then would have been arm and a leg, pretty much) would still be solid enough today and that's 12 years ago, which is a lot of time in tech terms. sure, i am sure there has been some improvements in TV tech etc since then but nothing i would say is a must have sorta thing, especially if costs are not reasonable (i.e. around $1k or less). someone i knew had a 50" Samsung 1080p TV i think around 2005 and i remember being pretty impressed by it when he played some movies on bluray. but it should have impressed me because i think he said he paid $3500 for it (i am pretty sure it was at least $2500).
even my cousin said (who i trust on these things)... while he can see a difference from HD to 4k he said it was not much (like he said there was a larger difference between SD to HD than from HD to 4k(which is what i figured even before he said that to me not all that long ago)) and if it had a decent $ premium for it, it would not be worth it. i think he said he had Netflix with the 4k stuff. he also said he's got a 65" TV which also might be a factor there as i imagine smaller TV's (which i would guesstimate most people probably don't have TV larger than 50inch or so) will be harder to notice(?).
with all of that said... ill be happy with typical HD for the foreseeable future as i don't really see a need to upgrade my current 43" LG 1080p TV (mfg date Jan 2016) (if i do, it would be mostly for a size increase (like if i do upgrade ill have to get at least a 50"+, if not 60" or so for me to even consider it) as i got my PC connected to that through it's HDMI port and play my movies in SD/HD that way. that was a BIG leap over my previous 25" old style TV from the early 2000's. i won't get that kind of leap from my current setup for quite some time i suspect as even with those TV's that costs thousands of $$$ right now won't be anything significant over my current TV even though i would expect to notice some difference. but lately (probably for years now) you don't really need to spend more than about $1k on a TV (especially if your not getting some monster sized TV) as much over that the prices basically shoot up for little gains pretty much (these are just ball park estimates but i am sure my estimates here are close enough). hell, even with typical HD scene released movies they look basically the same on my 43" TV with 720p or 1080p (which is why i basically stick to 720p for hard drive space savings) but i can notice a little difference when viewing the same movie on an actual bluray disc, but even then it's not all that much. if i had to speculate i would guess that's probably something in the neighborhood of bluray to 4k, like a little bit (and noticeable) but nothing big enough to make me say, 'i have to have this', especially for the vast majority of movies.
hell, another thing... strictly looking at the size of a TV you will have limits here to simply because of space in a persons house will limit how far one can go as in this regard i can't really see TV's going much larger than what we currently have as i have seen 60" TV's and those are more than good enough for me and i would assume most people. so 'maybe' 80" or so is probably the limit, give or take, unless your house is really big?.
just some thoughts
sdrew13163
I think you can definitely see a difference between it [4k] and Blu-Ray.
but it's not all that much right?
like there is more of a difference between SD to HD than bluray to 4k, right?
like i guess my point is... 4k is more expendable(like if you can get it, fine. if not, it's not a big deal) vs basic HD. (hell, in my personal opinion... unless a movie is more visual/atmosphere oriented i can even get by with SD no problem)
but given you said, "After that, I'm not sure anything above 4K will even be noticeable." ; i have a feeling you basically agree with me (or at least mostly).