Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 13:04:02 GMT
I am aware the LGBTQ community has been asking for bigger/better representation on the screen, and I am all for it whenever it makes sense in the context of the movie or brings anything to the movie other than the "marketing" effect (here of two hot women having sex).
to me this felt cheap/gratuitous/random. Charlize says it makes sense and it suited the character. How? How? We knew NOTHING about the character. Therefore nothing or rather ANYTHING she did "made sense/suited her". We learned only ONE thing about the character during the entire movie. That she is a lesbian or bi. Thats all. So to me, no, it did not "make sense" (as in "could have been expected, or fit well within the characters behavior/world). It felt random.
Also the way that scene was shot was (to me) also screaming "marketing". Don't get me wrong, I like and admire both of those actresses. But I felt that scene was added there and shot this way simply to (pls take a deep breath I don't mean to offend) please men and maybe add some shock/twist value. Not to represent an under-represented community. It was no Carol, no Bound, no Heavenly Creatures moment.
But I am glad that Charlize (and you and thus probably others also) see it as something good that helped an unrepresented community be more visible. If that truly was the film makers goal, then mission accomplished I presume.
PS: a lot of heterosexual scenes in many movies are put there and shot this way with very similar motivation and effect and I "mind" just as much. I love to see sex scenes in the movies, but I appreciate it more when it doesn't feel like I am just watching a sex commercial or a ticket selling point.
One of the things I actually liked about the ‘Atomic Blonde’ movie compared to some other movies and TV shows with female leads is they kept her character mysterious and they didn’t try and weaken her down by making her overly emotional or having her life revolve around her love life which is one of the worst tropes in Hollywood and the TV industry when it comes to portraying female characters and a great example of this is the ‘Supergirl’ TV show I mentioned above. We have had around 20-30 Bond films so far and we know very little about the character or if the characters Sean Connery, Pierce Bronson, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Daniel Craig and George Lazabey played are even the same person or the name ‘James Bond’ is just an alias multiple characters use like ‘M’ and ‘Q.’ That seems very likely at this point with the constant changes of his personality and him getting younger in the movies.
It is no secret ‘Atomic Blonde’ was influenced by James Bond so I think the writers were deliberately going for the ‘mysterious’ angle with her character and I don't really see a problem with that 'cause we have hundreds of mysterious male characters and no one ever nitpicks at them. I also think there wouldn't be such a problem with the sex scene if it was a male lead having sex with a female character and whether it was intended for LGBT or male viewers there is a double standard when it comes to female characters having no strings attached sex and sex with multiple partners and we saw this in full swing on the 'True Blood' forum when Sookie started sleeping with multiple partners and we got hundreds of 'Sookie Is A Slut' threads while her brother was allowed to sleep with hundreds of characters and nobody said a word about that.
This is a problem, not just in movies or TV shows but in real life and is actually worse now than it was when I was younger which is why we need more movies that normalise this whether it be with male or female characters.
As for representation, no, I agree with you. 'Atomic Blonde' is no 'Carol', 'The L Word' (which is returning soon due to the lack of representation of lesbians in movies and TV shows), 'Lost Girl' or even 'Wynonna Earp' for that matter which is why I strongly support a lot of the fans who want a 'Sunstone' movie 'cause it is one of the best LGBT graphic novel series to come along and breaks new ground but as far as female representation in comic book movies I think Rob Cohen's 'Razor' is going to be the movie the smash the glass ceiling and Rob Cohen has already said there will be a sequel and a spinoff of 'Strike.' 'Razor' has a reputation for being one of the most violent comic books ever made and was created in the image of Everette Hartsoe's real life deceased sister who was murdered being a vigilante when he was only 15 and in the comic book series when Razor (Nicole) comes back to life she is invincible and impervious to pain and becomes a superhero to not only get revenge on those that murdered her but to save other people from becoming victims. Unlike other superheroes Razor has no problem killing villains and kills them in very graphic ways with her blades and she is openly bisexual and unashamedly promiscuous. Rob Cohen is describing it as one of the most empowering superhero movies ever made and has acknowledged the problem with the lack of female lead comic book movies which he wants to change.
